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View Poll Results: Poll: Is Barack Hussein Obama a Demagogue?
Yes, he is a demagogue. 37 62.71%
No, he is not. 20 33.90%
I don't know/Not sure. 2 3.39%
Voters: 59. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-25-2008, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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Why must you keep saying Hussein? Even going so far as omitting his last name?

Why just Barack Hussein, like that is his last name?
He gave his full name.
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Live in VA, Work in MD, Play in DC
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He gave his full name.
I'm referring to this part right here:

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Becaus emany don't know what a Demagogue is. And they will vote w/o knowing the def, just because they condier Barack Hussein a god.
Please just say Barack Obama, or if you must Barack Hussein Obama, but please don't just say Barack Hussein.
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Missouri of course
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I'm referring to this part right here:



Please just say Barack Obama, or if you must Barack Hussein Obama, but please don't just say Barack Hussein.
Whether you like it or not the person has a right to call the man by any of his known names. In fact, I would say get over and move on. Stop trying to make something out of nothing.
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:54 AM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Definition:

A leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power.

You decide: Is he a Demagogue? Why and why not?
by that definition, EVERY politician is a demagogue.
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Live in VA, Work in MD, Play in DC
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Whether you like it or not the person has a right to call the man by any of his known names. In fact, I would say get over and move on. Stop trying to make something out of nothing.
Maybe you are right, but considering the poster Johnny Rockets history, I believe he was emphasizing it.

Do you call him Barack Hussein too? Or hear many others call him that?

Maybe you are right though, maybe I am making something out of nothing.
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Old 03-06-2008, 07:30 AM
 
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Default Demagogue Portrayals

The Obama portrayal of demagoguery is certainly present in his campaign, but may be more attributable to his demeanor and personality rather than his intention. But where there is smoke, isn't there usually fire?

One wonders who Obama models himself after since despite his references to JFK, FDR, Lincoln, or MLK, the only person he seems to be able to compare himself to by disposition is Suharto by his speech style. That may be due to his early upbringing with the ability to watch Suharto, the only President he knew from age 2-14, the most formative years of a boy's life. That is unlikely not to have rubbed off on him of what leadership looks like, and how leaders speak. The similarity is uncanny but perhaps not practiced.

A young boy who watched only Hitler might present himself like Hitler; the reasoning is as rational as any young boy who emulates his father's mannerisms and style; as child of a single mother, youngsters often adopt role models around them to style themselves after, and for public purposes, Suharto might very well have been the one, and the only one available to him. This, of course, is no small psychological consideration since the man was a dictator, albeit a popular one. One wonders if the attitudes are mobile and transferable even through a different model of government if a person has those attitudes. Since we have no way of atttude testing future Presidential candidates, how can we know?

The refusal to stand on his record or be specific may be a part of this demagoguery syndrome since most candidates in America recognize they must justify themselves by that method. Obama hasn't chosen to do so, and there are now many, many immigrants from throughout the world familiar with that style that suggests he may not have to follow American traditions. It is the one subtle change in American politics that seems somewhat noticeable, but all a part of the same syndrome of what people are willing to accept as President, and the problem of popular elections.
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Old 03-06-2008, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Definition:

A leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power.

This is the GOP's Mission Statement on selecting a candidate.
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Old 03-06-2008, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Florida
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No, he is not. His record speaks for him, I think Clinton will say/do anything to win!
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Old 03-06-2008, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Transition Island
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He gave his full name.
Only because hatred and racist spirits are alive and well. When will the spirits of that evil era die!! Not in my lifetime!
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Old 03-06-2008, 09:59 AM
 
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Well since King Hussein of Jordan was always a stalwart ally, perhaps he is bestowing honors.
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