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I realize this is another Hillary hate thread but she would not win the Democratic nomination in 2020.
It's that simple. I'm guessing Democrats will nominate a young energetic male with an aggressive taste for attacking Trump and the GOP.
But feel free to continue waxing on with hatred for a 69 year old woman that holds no political office.
I'll agree with you on everything but the gate thread part simply because people in the public eye need to be able to be slapped around. Some get goofy grins while others fire back.
Anyway. I don't know whether she'll run again but I remember someone saying that they (the press) wouldn't " have Dick Nixon to kick around any more".
IF the Dems nominate Hillary for 2020; that party DESERVES to "die". I say that cause there are lots more good people out there than her if talking Dems.
Hillary is not running in 2020. No one believes it and no way she would win the nomination. This is just a Hillary hate thread; no one really believes she will run at 73 and no one believes Democrats would nominate her. It will most likely be a young energetic guy that really likes to take the gloves off with the GOP and by then there will be plenty of material.
I believe that if she was to run there are a large number of Democrats that would support her.
I believe that if she was to run there are a large number of Democrats that would support her.
I do not. In 2008 Democrats had a choice between Hillary and Obama. We wanted Obama, we love him still and all the right wing hate will never change that. If Obama could run again, he would get that support without question. But there was a level of guilt about Hillary. I even received an email asking if I wanted to see any Democratic opposition to Hillary. I said yes, because I felt a candidate without opposition will not be prepared. But the point was, there was a level of obligation regarding Hillary even if, given a choice we would have preferred Biden. That obligation has been met. Hillary would not get the Democratic nomination in 2020, it's not even a remote possibility.
I would have loved to have seen Hillary as the first female president and I think she would have made a very good president, far preferable to Trump. But now Democrats will move to the next generation and that's just the way it is. Everyone knows this though.
I do not. In 2008 Democrats had a choice between Hillary and Obama. We wanted Obama, we love him still and all the right wing hate will never change that. If Obama could run again, he would get that support without question. But there was a level of guilt about Hillary. I even received an email asking if I wanted to see any Democratic opposition to Hillary. I said yes, because I felt a candidate without opposition will not be prepared. But the point was, there was a level of obligation regarding Hillary even if, given a choice we would have preferred Biden. That obligation has been met. Hillary would not get the Democratic nomination in 2020, it's not even a remote possibility.
I do agree that Biden would have likely beat Hillary.
I do agree that Biden would have likely beat Hillary.
Not unless he was prepared to change to Josephine. The left wanted a token female. They got one. America did not want a token female. They rejected one.
I do agree that Biden would have likely beat Hillary.
If Biden were ten years younger, he would likely be the guy in 2020. I would still be fine with him being selected by a Democratic president for any position he wanted if he even wanted one at his age. But Democrats did feel bad about Hillary.
Here's the funny thing - in 2008 we had the PUMAs, women who were furious that Hillary did not receive the nomination. By 2016, the worst things I heard about Hillary were from women. Men were terrible but women who did not exactly compare favorably, would attack her looks, her age, her weight, her everything in a personally, vicious way with no self-awareness at all. I no longer feel an obligation to see a woman elected president in my lifetime.
Hillary is not running in 2020. No one believes it and no way she would win the nomination. This is just a Hillary hate thread; no one really believes she will run at 73 and no one believes Democrats would nominate her. It will most likely be a young energetic guy that really likes to take the gloves off with the GOP and by then there will be plenty of material.
Maybe a democrat whose evil, alter-ego twin is Paul Ryan. He would be the one who hadn't been dropped onto the head by his mother as a baby.
I no longer feel an obligation to see a woman elected president in my lifetime.
Democrats would do better if they stopped focusing on tokens. To feel an obligation to elect any race, gender, sexual orientation, etc, is tokenism, and exactly the inverse of MLK's quote:
Democrats would do better if they stopped focusing on tokens. To feel an obligation to elect any race, gender, sexual orientation, etc, is tokenism, and exactly the inverse of MLK's quote:
I don't think Democrats went out of their way searching for "firsts". Barack Obama was the first choice of Democrats for many reasons and honestly, I've often thought if he were a Republican, the GOP would have fallen all over themselves to get him. I don't expect agreement but that is my opinion. As it so happened, Hillary, a long time loyal Democratic soldier also wanted it and the timing could not have been worse. So we felt the obligation to give it to her next time. The obligation has been met. I'm guessing most Democrats will tell you the same thing.
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