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When I think of Bernie I think of his love of socialism, something that has never worked anywhere in the history of mankind.
It depends on what is meant by socialism. Social Democracy works very well in the Scandinavian countries.
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That anyone could be so dumb to think it would work here is beyond me.
It may be true that Social Democracy wouldn't work here in the USA. Unlike the Scandinavians, we are bitterly divided by race, religion, and even gender. We can't stand the thought of our tax dollars being used to benefit "those other people." The Democrat's obsession with "identity politics" since the 1960's hasn't helped.
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All the liberals heard was how he would give away free stuff and they were sold.
Simple minds are simply amused.
It's true that there's no free lunch. I think most people realize that, even most "liberals."
Here's a great article that debunks two major myths about Sanders:
1)That the DNC email leaks showed they schemed against Sanders
2)The notion that Sanders would have won against Trump
I never got the feeling that he "sold out" necessarily, I always got the feeling that he was trying to be loyal to the Democratic party...far more than any Democrat would have been. Politics is a dirty, filthy game and he just would not do it. It's ideal, but it doesn't help you win. We have seen what happens to those who try to stay nice...they never win. Ever.
That would be fine if he was a (D) but he claims he isn't.
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Maybe I'm wrong, but to me he seemed to firmly and fully believe in his cause - complete opposite of most politicians who just say they believe it - and he envisioned a party that would come together...there's just too many videos of him speaking to an empty room, or just a few people in the room who get up and leave...
The empty rooms started after he started defending Hillary.
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How long can you do that if you don't really care or believe what you're trying to sell? I feel a bit sorry for him because he finally had people listening to him, cheering him on, wanting to vote for him - but he got stabbed in the back while he tried to play nice.
Which goes to prove that you should never give up your principles for a party.
After his presidential run was sabotaged by his own party, Sanders has continued to support the Democrats, and even now, acts as the voice of hope in a country more divided than ever.
Sanders, who spoke in 46 states during his campaign, told Stephen Colbert, "I saw so many beautiful people ... especially young people ... Black and white and Latino and Asian-American and Native American. Incredibly beautiful people who want to make this country into the country that we know it can become."
Sanders would have got every single vote Hillary did and the votes of his supporters that refused to vote for her.
Nope, I'm a Hillary supporter and I would have sat the election out, and I know some other people who would have done the same. In fact, lots of Obama supporters (namely blacks) sat this election out. Highly doubtful that blacks would have turned out for Sanders in the same numbers that they turned out for Hillary.
Nope, I'm a Hillary supporter and I would have sat the election out, and I know some other people who would have done the same. In fact, lots of Obama supporters (namely blacks) sat this election out. Highly doubtful that blacks would have turned out for Sanders in the same numbers that they turned out for Hillary.
Pretty presumptuous.
Had Sanders won the nomination, the party would have thrown it's support to him, including the Obamas.
Plus we don't know who he would have picked for VP.
Nope, I'm a Hillary supporter and I would have sat the election out, and I know some other people who would have done the same. In fact, lots of Obama supporters (namely blacks) sat this election out. Highly doubtful that blacks would have turned out for Sanders in the same numbers that they turned out for Hillary.
Sanderistas did better with people of color out west in Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, Hawaii & among the Aboriginals (including Hawaii) than on the east coast.
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