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Old 11-13-2016, 04:18 PM
 
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No proof the moon isnt made from cheese either, but everyone else seems to know common knowledge items while you need them spoon fed to you..
A picture from 2010 (with some of the state data 16 years old) showing that prisons were overcrowded hardly substantiates your claim that "we let them go in order to cut down the cost of the prison system".

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Because we let them go in order to cut down the cost of the prison system, ignoring the negative cost on society elsewhere..
Now, have you got some evidence that illegal immigrant convicts have been released from US prison to save money?

I'd like to see that, please. Thanks!
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Old 11-13-2016, 04:33 PM
 
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Oh please! Wanting people to respect a country's immigration laws is not the freaking Holocaust. I personally couldn't care less if they've been here for a while, like five years or longer. Heck, I don't even care if they've been here a year. They can stay, but no more! A wall could work, but even better would be to remove the incentives to come here, like employment and benefits. And criminals definitely should be deported after they get out of jail.
Sure, a wall would work - because you say so, even though the one we have never has, and the one Der Donald says he will build has now turned into part wall, part fence instead of the 90 foot tall reinforced concrete wall he said he'd build. Makes perfect sense.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZe4vHDGKSA

I suppose we could crash our economy so nobody would ever want to come here. BTW, you do know that illegal immigrants are ineligible for work in the US, and cannot collect benefits already...don't you? Maybe if greedy US employers who seek out and hire illegals to exploit cheap labor faced stiffer consequences, the practice would cease. I suspect that too many of them are GOP donors for that to happen.

5 immigration myths debunked - Nov. 20, 2014

Many illegal immigrants initially enter the country by traveling here legally and overstaying their visa. Law enforcement officers of the law generally do not ask to see proof of citizenship. Maybe we should all be forced by Dear Leader to get a chip implant so the authorities know we're citizens, huh?

Foreign criminals are deported already, after they are charged, tried, and convicted. You knew that too, right?

How Does a Felony Affect Immigration Status? - FindLaw
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Old 11-13-2016, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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It's called using existing programs like E-Verify. Follow the rule of laws/existing programs in place to do it legally.

Legally.

And if prices go up a bit? So what. I think the families who had loved one killed by illegals would find that "cost" worth it. I know these families, just a few examples, who live in my state would think it's worth it. And if such a similiar tragedy happened to a loved one of yours, you would to:

Mother of officer killed by illegal immigrant writes Obama - CBS 5 - KPHO

Drunk Illegal Alien Kills Six-Year-Old Boy

Jamiel Shaw & Jamiel “Jas” Shaw Jr.: 5 Fast Facts | Heavy.com

Right and let's put silk parachutes in every commercial aircraft for every passenger because we know that people are killed in airplane accidents all the time and if they had a chute, they'd have a chance.
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Old 11-13-2016, 05:56 PM
 
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Sure, a wall would work - because you say so, even though the one we have never has, and the one Der Donald says he will build has now turned into part wall, part fence instead of the 90 foot tall reinforced concrete wall he said he'd build. Makes perfect sense.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZe4vHDGKSA

I suppose we could crash our economy so nobody would ever want to come here. BTW, you do know that illegal immigrants are ineligible for work in the US, and cannot collect benefits already...don't you? Maybe if greedy US employers who seek out and hire illegals to exploit cheap labor faced stiffer consequences, the practice would cease. I suspect that too many of them are GOP donors for that to happen.

5 immigration myths debunked - Nov. 20, 2014

Many illegal immigrants initially enter the country by traveling here legally and overstaying their visa. Law enforcement officers of the law generally do not ask to see proof of citizenship. Maybe we should all be forced by Dear Leader to get a chip implant so the authorities know we're citizens, huh?

Foreign criminals are deported already, after they are charged, tried, and convicted. You knew that too, right?

How Does a Felony Affect Immigration Status? - FindLaw
I'm from Texas. Sell your bull to someone else. Illegals work. You said it yourself. And they collect benefits when they have kids here. And when they go to the emergency room. And when their kids get on the free lunch program. And I don't even care if they do when they're here. I don't want people to starve. But I think they need to stay in their own countries and fix the problems they have there. And if they come here and overstay their visas, they signed a pledge that they wouldn't and know the consequences.

If my house was falling apart, do you think it would be okay for me to go squat at my neighbor's house and then say he's racist if he wants me to leave because I clean his house? No, I would be told to fix my own house.

And thousands of criminals are released back onto our streets. Read my links above.
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Old 11-13-2016, 05:59 PM
 
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I'm from Texas. Sell your bull to someone else. Illegals work. You said it yourself. And they collect benefits when they have kids here. And when they go to the emergency room. And when their kids get on the free lunch program. And I don't even care if they do when they're here. I don't want people to starve. But I think they need to stay in their own countries and fix the problems they have there. And if they come here and overstay their visas, they signed a pledge that they wouldn't and know the consequences.

If my house was falling apart, do you think it would be okay for me to go squat at my neighbor's house and then say he's racist if he wants me to leave because I clean his house? No, I would be told to fix my own house.

And thousands of criminals are released back onto our streets. Read my links above.
Poor baby. You need a safe space. Strong Leader Trump says he'll make the bad people go away.

All better now?
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Old 11-13-2016, 06:01 PM
 
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Poor baby. You need a safe space. Strong Leader Trump says he'll make the bad people go away.

All better now?
You're sounding more and more bitter with every delusional post. Just because we finally have a President who intends to enforce currently laws, you're world isn't going to end. Be brave.
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Old 11-13-2016, 06:02 PM
 
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Poor baby. You need a safe space. Strong Leader Trump says he'll make the bad people go away.

All better now?
I don't need a safe space. Perhaps you do. I will not be shamed because I think a country has a right to protect its borders and people should respect those laws.
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Old 11-13-2016, 06:23 PM
 
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That's the Democrats base.
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Old 11-13-2016, 07:03 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Trump says he will deport 2 to 3 million immediately

Typical con-man, gets what he wants from people (votes) then changes the deal.

Donald Trump promises 'deportation force' to move 11M - CNNPolitics.com
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Old 11-13-2016, 07:05 PM
 
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Sure, a wall would work - because you say so, even though the one we have never has, and the one Der Donald says he will build has now turned into part wall, part fence instead of the 90 foot tall reinforced concrete wall he said he'd build. Makes perfect sense.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZe4vHDGKSA

I suppose we could crash our economy so nobody would ever want to come here. BTW, you do know that illegal immigrants are ineligible for work in the US, and cannot collect benefits already...don't you? Maybe if greedy US employers who seek out and hire illegals to exploit cheap labor faced stiffer consequences, the practice would cease. I suspect that too many of them are GOP donors for that to happen.

5 immigration myths debunked - Nov. 20, 2014

Many illegal immigrants initially enter the country by traveling here legally and overstaying their visa. Law enforcement officers of the law generally do not ask to see proof of citizenship. Maybe we should all be forced by Dear Leader to get a chip implant so the authorities know we're citizens, huh?

Foreign criminals are deported already, after they are charged, tried, and convicted. You knew that too, right?

How Does a Felony Affect Immigration Status? - FindLaw
Some of us already are carrying around chips. Did you know that those Enhanced Driver's Licences have chips in them?

I did not know that I had it. There is a big Gold Star on my Florida Driver's License. I showed my US Passport as ID and now have that Star, and Chip. Creeps me out, truthfully. I did not ask for this.

I noticed something different after I got this license. I fly back and forth from Florida to NY several times a year. My boarding pass always say TSA Pre-Board approved. I am always ushered to a separate security line with very few people on it. I do not have to take off my shoes, overwear, lap top out of bag, etc. It is all one, two, three. I thought it was because of my age, but I have seen people far older and disabled than me, going on that regular security line. I now realize that it is this Gold Star and that Chip in my Driver's License

Quote frankly, it scares me knowing that I am walking around carrying a CHIP. Gold Star/Chip, Citizen? No, I do not like this at all. If they are tracking my flights, what else are they tracking?
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