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Old 12-31-2016, 12:46 PM
 
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Blame the next torrid 8 years, post Obama, for Democrats on Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. The Democrats needed to clean out the top and start again, only problem was the elderly leadership thought by stepping aside would amount to an admission of responsibility for defeat in 2016. In spending too much time around Hillary they all learned the fingerpointing and deflection skills, now all unfortunately too ingrained in their collective systems to ever try something different.

Nancy Pelosi, addicted to the big fundraising lifestyle and Hollywood socializing, should have done the right thing and resign. She is far too detached from modern political reality to offer anything to the rebuilding of the Democrat party. Pelosi is in this game, for important reason. The photo op. Just loving those headlines about how good she looks at her age. Truth be known let's not forget the amount of time and money she invests in her appearance.

Liz Warren will be around for some time to come. As long as the old liberal guard is in place, Warren will always have a home there. Even if they do not like the idea so much. Does not matter one iota, Warren will use that gate crashing and volatile personality to shoulder her way to the forefront again. Expect a few well acted emotional moments from Warren in the coming years. Always well timed and for maximum effect. She might have her sights set for 2020. The first female president and a democrat, is too sweet a temptation for Warren. Little does she know her chances are not as good as she hopes. Do we actually think Hillary will actively endorse and truly support Warren to be first female president. Not a chance.

Democrats are too resistant to change and it will cost them dearly in the future.
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Old 12-31-2016, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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She can be the first American Indian major party nominee! LOL
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Old 01-01-2017, 03:30 PM
 
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Warren's chances of winning the Presidency are not that high. Besides being a far leftist, she is just very annoying and unlikeable overall. Agree with the assessment of her voice -- it's even more annoying that Hillary's (which I didn't think was possible). Like Hillary, she has no redeemable qualities whatsoever. Unlike Hillary, she won't necessarily have all the major institutions backing her so her journey to the WH will be even more difficult.

All leftist policies are bad, but those who achieve electoral success (like Obama) have favorable personal characteristics that voters are drawn to. If there's a candidate to be concerned about, I'd say it's Cory Booker. As a tried and true leftist, his policies are as bad as those of anyone else on the left. That said, he does have other good qualities: well-spoken; good-looking guy; articulate; comes off as reasonable/sensible/etc.
You make some very good points about Cory Booker. Yet as hard as this is to believe, some on the far-left are less than enthused about him. That's because, back in 2012, he had the "audacity" to praise Bain Capital. (If I remember correctly, he didn't even praise Romney; he merely suggested that Democratic attacks regarding Bain were incorrect.)

Aside from Warren, I really worry about Kamla Harris getting the 2020 nomination. In addition to her extreme political views, she is appealing to many Democrats because she has the added "bonus" of being a black female. And if Harris chooses Julian Castro (another minority, far-left nutjob) as her running mate, the Democrats have their best shot of following the Obama strategy of winning elections by turning out massive numbers of minorities to the polls.
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Old 01-02-2017, 09:28 AM
 
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You make some very good points about Cory Booker. Yet as hard as this is to believe, some on the far-left are less than enthused about him. That's because, back in 2012, he had the "audacity" to praise Bain Capital. (If I remember correctly, he didn't even praise Romney; he merely suggested that Democratic attacks regarding Bain were incorrect.)

Aside from Warren, I really worry about Kamla Harris getting the 2020 nomination. In addition to her extreme political views, she is appealing to many Democrats because she has the added "bonus" of being a black female. And if Harris chooses Julian Castro (another minority, far-left nutjob) as her running mate, the Democrats have their best shot of following the Obama strategy of winning elections by turning out massive numbers of minorities to the polls.


Interesting. Wonder if it will work
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Old 01-06-2017, 10:21 PM
 
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I think Elizabeth Warren could win a presidential election; she has a better reputation than Hillary in some respects. I don't care for her, but Trump might alienate a lot of independent and/or white voters in his first four years, and usher in a Democrat resurgence; and Warren could ride that wave to the top...
What exactly has she done that makes you think she should be President?
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Old 01-06-2017, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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The Democratic party is a very STRONG party, they won the POPULAR VOTE, don't let the corrupt NEWS MEDIA cloud your opinion.

Warren is a female, she can't win, the "good old boys" will not VOTE for her! Tim Kaine, please DO NOT run in 2020, you're weak and clownish. Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders, please DON'T think about running, TIME has passed you all by, "Can the Bern" and "Say Goodbye Joe."
The Democratic party is strong in a very small MINORITY of states and inspite of what liberals want states still matter.

Oh please Warren can't win for the same reason Hillary didn't, because of her personality and politics. Stop blaming your failures on some fictional bias.
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Old 01-06-2017, 10:42 PM
 
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Warren is worse than Hilary.
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Old 01-06-2017, 11:58 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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her voice sounds like nails on a chalkboard. Not to mention her "Strategy" of defeating Trump was insulting him and his fans . If they nominate her they would lose in a landslide
I will guarantee Pocahontas runs in 2020. Chief Spreading Bull will not get nominated though.

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Old 01-07-2017, 12:53 AM
 
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Democrats love Lyawatha because she's a big scold.

They think she's really "telling 'em."

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Old 01-07-2017, 01:11 AM
 
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Um, sounds to me that you think Democrats should be pushing/appointing WASP males rather than Minorities: Warren (Pocahontas per Trump), Schumer (Jew), Ellison (Black Muslim), Michelle (Black Female), or even Duckworth (Asian Female).

I can read between the lines, even if it is subliminal on your part.
No, we just like people who are intelligent, presentable and qualified -- whatever they do and whoever they are.

We don't believe in electing somebody "just because" they're a woman, a Jew, a black, etc.

Been there, done that (2008 - 2016).

Let's not do it again.

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