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Old 06-16-2017, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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I would say these are the biggest blunders:

1. Believing the U.S. had fewer stupid and/or racist people than reality. The Dems thought there weren't enough idiots and bigots to put Trump over the top, but they were sadly mistaken.

2. Not fighting fire with fire. Trump was lying daily, threatening violence, claiming Hillary should be jailed, etc., and it was all deranged nonsense. Hillary should have fought back on equal terms, calling him a sexual predator, thief, tax dodger, failed businessman, grifer, virulent racist, traitor to America, etc. And unlike the Trump accusations, everything Hillary would have said would have been true.

3. Discounting the threat of Russian interference and Russia's alliance with Trump. The Hillary campaign should have struck much harder given that a hostile foreign entity was in cahoots with Trump in rigging the election. She was a wimp; never calling it like it is. She should have hammered "Traitorous Donald Trump" every minute.
1. You don't get it. Trump wins, so the people who voted for him are bigots. (deporables)
2. Hilary has lied for her entire career. Hillary did call Trump every name in the book. And Hillary does belong in jail.
3. Russia didn't cast one vote for Trump. All they did was release emails that showed how corrupt the democrats are. I say - well done, comrade Putin.
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Old 06-16-2017, 05:19 PM
 
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Nope--you were right. The Clintons are also accused of fraud with a university:

The Clinton University Scandal? | Power Line


I think you`ll need something more serious than Power Line.
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Old 06-17-2017, 08:25 AM
 
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Every time I read the title of this thread, I think: "Her face. Just her hideous face." Followed by: "Her voice."


Nobody could look at and listen to that for 4 years. Nobody.
This, and add to that the hideous pantsuits. God, can't get away from the pantsuits! How my friends and co-workers and I used to laugh at them. We wouldn't be laid out at our funerals wearing one of those. I don't own a Hillary-type "pantsuit" or any other kind of "pantsuit" (and I've been called a clothes horse in my day)...neither do any of my friends. We wouldn't be caught dead in one of her Chairman Mao-type ensembles that yell, "I want to be a MAN, but I was born a WOMAN!" It hides her figure flaws, I guess. Doesn't the woman own a dress? Don't feminists wear dresses and skirts these days? There's Spanx, or a good old fashioned girdle to suck it in and make it fit.
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Old 06-17-2017, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts & Hilton Head, SC
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This, and add to that the hideous pantsuits. God, can't get away from the pantsuits! How my friends and co-workers and I used to laugh at them. We wouldn't be laid out at our funerals wearing one of those. I don't own a Hillary-type "pantsuit" or any other kind of "pantsuit" (and I've been called a clothes horse in my day)...neither do any of my friends. We wouldn't be caught dead in one of her Chairman Mao-type ensembles that yell, "I want to be a MAN, but I was born a WOMAN!" It hides her figure flaws, I guess. Doesn't the woman own a dress? Don't feminists wear dresses and skirts these days? There's Spanx, or a good old fashioned girdle to suck it in and make it fit.
She started wearing pantsuits as she got heavier and then made them her trademark. It's not just that she's thick in the middle, she has bad legs, too. Cankles.
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Old 06-20-2017, 11:34 PM
 
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I mean, there were so many to choose from:

Her decades of scandal/lies/corruption?

Her taking alot of time off the campaign trail to rest?

Her fragile health and lying about it?

Wikileaks showing even more examples of curruption?

Primary cheating regarding Bernie?

Unlikeability/ shrill voice

Picking Tim Kaine as VP?

What do you think?

Cities voted for Hillary as they do all democrats. I think we have become an uneducated society in rural counties who don't follow politics. Sorry, I don't mean to insult anyone but you don't understand that coal mining is not coming back. You think you hated Obama's healthcare, just wait for what the republicans want to do for you. How do you vote against your own best interest.
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Old 06-21-2017, 06:20 AM
 
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"Basket of deplorables" sunk her.
Spot on, this quote, and more importantly the attitude accompanying it were her undoing.

Dems never cease to amaze me. So they blindly attack half of the electorate, and wonder why no swing state voters support them... For folks in the Midwest, aside from political activists, it really is about the economy. They don't want to hear single word attacks of the opposition. They surely don't want to be talked down to by a party for wanting to improve their own situation.

Here is hoping the Dems continue the status quo. It worked so well in 2016, and they're 0-4 in special elections so far...
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Old 06-23-2017, 05:35 AM
 
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Cities voted for Hillary as they do all democrats. I think we have become an uneducated society in rural counties who don't follow politics. Sorry, I don't mean to insult anyone but you don't understand that coal mining is not coming back. You think you hated Obama's healthcare, just wait for what the republicans want to do for you. How do you vote against your own best interest.
"in rural counties who don't follow politics"

What a snobbish, juvenile insult.

Hint, even rural America has access to TV coverage.

" How do you vote against your own best interest"

Your "perception" is 1 reason for the over 1,400 lost political seats.

PLEASE, keep kit up!
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Old 06-23-2017, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Kent, Ohio
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Ultimately, the core "colossal blunder" was a sizable minority of the American public who believed a bunch of fake news and fell for the populist spiel of a con-artist.
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Old 06-23-2017, 08:02 AM
 
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"Basket of deplorables" sunk her.
That certainly gave many Americans an insight into how she (and by extension) the socialist Democrats felt about average Americans not going along with the leftist kooks.
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Old 06-23-2017, 08:53 AM
 
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Ultimately, the core "colossal blunder" was a sizable minority of the American public who believed a bunch of fake news and fell for the populist spiel of a con-artist.
This would not have happened if Hillary were a better candidate or had run a better campaign. Trump is not Reagan, he did not inspire some sizeable portion of the population to switch parties or drive untold numbers of people to the polls. I held my nose and voted for Clinton because I did not like Trump's rhetoric or how erratic he was. And that was the problem- too many Clinton votes were based on grinning and bearing it. At least Trump has a segment of issues voters that he excited. And in the end I think the anti-Clinton vote carried him over the line. I just read a book on the election and in the primary the closer each state got to voting and the more candidates presented themselves Hillary's leads eroded. This repeated in the general. It started with Iowa caucuses where Clinton barely eeked it out. Later in Michigan Bernie basically swept the undecided and late decision makers. A couple of days before the general elections Republicans actually sat on their Michigan & Pennsylvania polling because Trump was closing in on Clinton so fast the Republicans who paid for the polls even doubted the numbers.

If Clinton didn't have 25 years of scandals, secrecy, off comments and poor decisions tied around her neck, the handful of people swayed by fake news and trumped up investigations would not have mattered. What killed her is that every investigation that failed to show the initial charge always found something else hinky going on. And the Clintons never separated from the Clinton Foundation which gave too much of an appearance of pay to play politics regardless of that being a correct assessment or not. She also pulled the bum move of giving private and contractually confidential speeches to Goldman Sachs for hundreds of thousands of dollars. And she stonewalled past the point of any reasonable explanation on her private server- which kept that scandal alive so long that the subsequent email breech from the DNC and the Russian hacks all became one issue in voters minds. And telling no one on her staff about having pneumonia and then all but collapsing at a rally didn't exactly inspire confidence.


As much as the Clintonites bashed Gore and Kerry for their campaigns, I have yet to see Team Clinton own up to a single aspect of their demise. Sometimes in life you simply realize its not your moment, you are not what people desire or you made a mistakes. And unlike Gore she wasn't snakebit in one state by a nonexistent margin.
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