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Old 11-20-2016, 04:59 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
Trump supporters have no basis to say things like:

"the voters have spoken"

"the silent majority"

"the will of the people"

"the people have spoken"

"mandate"


None of that.
Can I say "President Trump?". That's better than all the above.

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Old 11-20-2016, 04:59 PM
 
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make her La Presidente of California, Mexicans love her.
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Old 11-20-2016, 05:01 PM
 
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Repeat it till your head pops.

Yes, Trump was awarded the presidency by the system-congrats.

But it's still intellectually dishonest to say that his selection by the electoral college is representative of any of this:


"the voters have spoken"

"the silent majority"

"the will of the people"

"the people have spoken"

"mandate"


None of the above apply to Donald Trump's electoral vote victory.
Of course they do. Because THAT IS THE TYPE OF ELECTION WE HAD. If we actually had a direct popular vote election, the results could be catastrophic, or similar, or just different. We don't know, really. The votes would all carry the same weight, which could give results that would completely disenfranchise smaller states. Please educate yourself on this topic.
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Old 11-20-2016, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Of course they do. Because THAT IS THE TYPE OF ELECTION WE HAD. If we actually had a direct popular vote election, the results could be catastrophic, or similar, or just different. We don't know, really. The votes would all carry the same weight, which could give results that would completely disenfranchise smaller states. Please educate yourself on this topic.
omg..the ignorance.
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Old 11-20-2016, 05:29 PM
 
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Hillary Clinton's Popular Vote Lead Over Donald Trump Now Exceeds 11.5 Million Votes


Clinton 48%
Trump 47%



Hillary Clinton's Popular Vote Lead Over Donald Trump Now Exceeds 1.5 Million Votes - ABC News
I'm gonna personally award her an additional 10 million votes....She still doesn't win.
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Old 11-20-2016, 06:08 PM
 
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in 1992, Bill Clinton got 43% of the popular vote, due to Ross Perots candidacy. Never heard the Dems question his legitimacy.

No one had more votes than Bill Clinton in that election. He won the plurality of votes cast just as his wife did.
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Old 11-20-2016, 07:05 PM
 
Location: In Transition
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https://www.city-data.com/forum/46028723-post1.html

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Wow, reminds me of this article: America called bull$hit on the Cult of Clinton

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What's funny about this is not simply that it's the biggest chattering-class hissy fit of the 21st century so far — and chattering-class hissy fits are always funny. It's that whatever you think of Trump (I'm not a fan) or his supporters (I think they're mostly normal, good people), the fact is they've got nothing on the Clinton cult when it comes to creepy, pious worship of a politician.



By the Cult of Hillary Clinton, I don't mean the nearly 62 million Americans who voted for her. I have not one doubt that they are as mixed and normal a bag of people as the Trumpites are. No, I mean the Hillary machine—the celebs and activists and hacks who were so devoted to getting her elected and who have spent the past week sobbing and moaning over her loss. These people exhibit cult-like behavior far more than any Trump cheerer I've come across.

...

It's all incredibly revealing. What it points to is a mainstream, Democratic left that is so bereft of ideas and so disconnected from everyday people that it ends up pursuing an utterly substance-free politics of emotion and feeling and doesn't even realize it's doing it. They are good, everyone else is bad; they are light itself, everyone else is darkness; and so no self-awareness can exist and no self-criticism can be entertained. Not for even one second, in Heffernan's words. The Cult of Hillary Clinton is the clearest manifestation yet of the 21st-century problem of life in the political echo chamber.
Could not have said it better myself. BTW, I'm not a fan of Trump nor did I vote for him.
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Old 11-21-2016, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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If New York State had it's own electoral college we'd have a chance of not being overrun by the large city liberals at every election. Many in New York are rural and republican. Our voices are never heard. Western NY needs to separate from eastern NY. We don't have a chance unless we do. We also need term limits for every representative. We've had democrat Louise Slaughter for as long as I can remember. We can't get rid of her.
Java, I feel your pain, we in Oregon suffer from the same. Oregon has 36 counties, they all vote Republican except for the 6 counties in the northeast part of the state, so as the Northeast Oregon goes so go the State. I think that instead of being a winner take all state, we should have the Electoral vote go by Congressional districts.
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Old 11-21-2016, 10:21 AM
 
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She probably thinks Al Gore was the President instead of W. Bush!
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