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Old 11-17-2016, 05:54 PM
 
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Our resident typing tutor strikes again. As usual offering faulty predictions.
"Question? .... what was it that you contributed to the subject discussion?????

 
Old 11-17-2016, 07:01 PM
 
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We all live here in American, so for that I wish Trump success in the right context an with the perspectives he has said, such as; He said he is not racist, and he said that he is concerned about the working people, and he is concerned about creating business and developing a comprehensive immigration plan.

I think the gravity of the office will help him if not force him to stick with the aims of trying to get it right.
He has already changed to a more logical theme when it comes to Immigration, which is: to deal with drug dealers, gang members and criminals who commit crimes. Not focusing on the people who are non violent, nor the people who work or the children whom are here illegally. That is a smarter turn in his stand. He has already made adjustments on his thoughts about a wall, which as stated, he will look at fences in the areas that is suitable, and Walls in areas that may have higher need for such. Along with utilizing technology to assist in the efforts.
There is no Mass Deportation in General. But there will be focus on Gangs and Drug Lords and there will be focus on people who commit violent crimes. That I would say is without a doubt something that will be. Obama did much of that as well, but already, the Dream Act is something that Trump has already opened to consider, because he knows that it more functional. He might not use the word Amnesty, but they will find a way to structure the people a method to gain valid status. it won't involve sending them back and telling them to line up on the other side of the border.
I think he will look at what is "Quota's"... All such things are in line, because of the mass number of talented and productive people whom they won't jeopardize by any mass deportation game, because he knows that other forward thinking countries will simply sanp-up those people and American can't afford to loose the talent it has pursued to attract.
He has already said, he think the Clinton's are good folks and he has no interest in attacking them. So he knows the difference in what is a campaign battle and what is the reality outside of the Campaign Battle. So people can get off the kick of thinking he will go after Hillary, because everyone already knows the Email things was a Campaign Punditry Game. We already see Pence, filing papers in court now trying to hide his Emails.
He and Romney were at Odds, but that too has found its way to become a sit down talk at this point.

The Big Stage as President is not like anything else in this Nation.

I do think he is going to have an issue with challenges regarding the aims with the Massive Tax Cuts, because one can't just dismantle the many programs which exist, and America is committed to its International Assistance. It's part of what has made American Great, which is the nature of its Good Will Character.

I think other programs will have to come into play. which will include some means to increase the Vocational and Technical Skill Level of a Mass volume of the young. It's already a part of the discussion. Maybe by doing so he can usher in a mentality that stops this craziness of thinking everyone has to have a University Degree, and let's get back to a system that respects people with vocational and Technical Skill, and those whom are self taught. University will be what it is, but it won't take such a stage dominance that diminish the value of what is vocational and technical skill certification. That will be great for Americans.
Many people who get vocational and technical skills, and are capable to work, often times some of those will on their own seek additional education.
Maybe it will curb people chasing degree just by spending time and money on the University Campus and exiting with absolutely not usable skill, but a rubber stamped degree certificate.
We are flooded with a mass of people with degree labels whom have no skills, no experience they simply accumulated credits by showing up to class and paying the money and riding the label of "college student'. Maybe we can get back to people pursuing a degree because they actually have a passion for a particular field. other than everyone chasing a degree as simply a "get a job certificate".

I'd like to see him engage builders and developers across the country, to invest in building AFFORDABLE Senior Citizen Facilities, both for general quality housing, as well as Assisted Living Facilities.

I'd like to see him push schools districts to move into the 21st Century in ALL SCHOOL, not just the schools in the wealthy areas.

At the level of President, it's no mystery that as soon as President Obama met with President Elect Trump, the result of the meeting was Trump finding that he respects President Obama and he appreciates the support to help make a smooth transition as well as to acknowledge the good works President Obama has done. It took no more than 90 minutes for that situations to turn into a change of heart about someone he spent nearly a decade criticizing.

All the campaign drama is over, Elizabeth has said she will support Trump in the aims to promote Glass-Steigel, and she will support him not allowing Wall Street to Run Wild. But she will not support bigotry and racism, and a variety of other Democrats are on board with that. Republican that did not support him are on board with him with regard to finding the right ways to curtail the wild gambling on Wall Street, and as the pressures come, more will move to the center to support a Glass-Steigel type reform, and bust up the madness of the Banks collusive games. It's going to happen.

Trump is looking at some of the Roosevelt Strategy, the first Roosevelt and the second Roosevelt.
Trump will within the role of President, just like Obama, find a lot to understand and work with some of the modeling style which is demonstrated necessity of as like the works of Roosevelt,

As to the racist groups, the first step to educate them is first to them all together, and Trump did that, next is to get them the information that they will either change and work with what is democracy or they will find themselves imploding from within. There was no other way to get them together other than the methods that has done so, now comes the time to educate them on what is American Democracy and how to respect the equality of the individual. If he fails at this, there will be a variety of challenges that he will likely not want to tolerate. so, the racist just as well get ready, because Trump has already shown that he will shoot from the hip. So, when he comes down on this craziness, don't suddenly complain about his off the cuff manner and his shoot from the hip style that you have praised so much. Because you are certainly in the sights and designated for change. So you just as well start telling your kids to get off that running around talking 'white power" and acting like its some recreating of the 1950's.

This man lives in a $100 million dollar Penthouse, do you think for one minute he is going to entertain any back woods racist, or rural living racist or any paramilitary anti-government type people in it. He did not invite them in his domain before and certainly as President, its not likely such types will see the inside of any place he lives. That image simply does not even fit, even in a crude concept it does not fit. Trump is not the kid of guy who's going to go out drinking bootleg whiskey and riding ATV's in the back woods, heck his young son's don't even do that. I'm sure they know elite racist, be assured the pressures of this office of President has a way of pushing that back too.

I know why I voted for Hillary, because she is skilled and qualified and understands the need of society and the challenges that people face and I've never seen her as being anything but a woman committed to her jobs. In Trump's acceptance speech, he acknowledge the same facts.

Trump is the elected President, so... Now, Trump gets the chance to try it his way. So, now we will see how it unfolds. ....

He will have to find ways to change from that demeanor he had before and during the campaigning, at this late stage age in his life he will pursue the means to make that change, because the Office of President Demands it.

No one is making any "party" pledge to try and be obstructive against Trump, certainly NOT as the Republican made such a pledge to be obstructive and did continue to be obstructive toward President Obama.

Democrats know the Nation and it's people are more important than to launch some crazed "party attack" and continue an entire "party" attack upon a man because of his skin color whom occupies the Seat as President.

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Old 11-17-2016, 07:03 PM
 
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My biggest fear is Nutty Don starting a war so he can get re-elected sometime in the next 4 years. Kind of like Bush and the WMD BS.

Both need to go to work with Newt.
 
Old 11-17-2016, 07:08 PM
 
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My biggest fear is Nutty Don starting a war so he can get re-elected sometime in the next 4 years. Kind of like Bush and the WMD BS.

Both need to go to work with Newt.
Hopefully nothing of such craziness happen. that's why people like Guiliani and the other nut's name they circulated is not the choice to be suitable as Secretary of State.
 
Old 11-17-2016, 07:13 PM
 
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At some point Trump will have to abandon Guilaini and Bannon

Maybe the time cannot come soon enough, but its for certain to come. Guilani is definately not the person for Secretary of State, and Bannon is not the person to have a position at that level in an Administration.

There are some elements that have to change. Kelly Ann is a good spinner, who can spin the most absurd things, because that's her role and her game plan. But, at some point, she will have to own up to some of the stuff she is spinning. I'm not saying she will or should be exercised out , but the point is, at some point she is going to have to find a way to not spin things that are ethically, legally borderline, and things that are not in the best interest of the country and its people.

The Right Winger Hard line obsessor's who want to turn American into a 1950's model, is for certain due for a shake up or a turn in ideology. Because this pandering to the the madness of Alt Right is insidious.

The Moderate Minded Republican must speak up, their concern is employment, infrastructure and respectful immigration reforms and better monitoring and management of Borders. Not some mass deportation ignorance, and not some of the other brutal stuff that was within the campaign drama. Only the fringe nut brigade expected some Hitler Like Administration from Trump.

Trump is finding out really quick, that nothing about the Office of Presidency, supports that "crap talk" he did in the campaign, and certainly not all that "drama based crap talk he did for years before he became a candidate, and that includes this silliness of "prosecute Hillary" his cult member following chanted, that stuff was purely campaign drama from the Trump angle, maybe his cult like following believed in such.

Guilaini, has been discovered to have taken money from many foreign nations that should not have been engaged by an American citizen in some 'get paid" program, Time is showing he is himself guilty of the stuff he tried to deflect upon Clinton. he was on a Global Money chase, whether its speaking or engaging some legal work for such groups or places. he probably is more upset that Post being Secretary of State, she could command greater speaking fee than he could. He and his records hae already disqualified himself,he just does not know it yet. His fire brand of "attack mentality" of the middle East is too inflammatory and invites more terrorism, so... he won't make it. If he does he will not last in that role.
Pence can't promote his Obsessive Religious Tone to the people and there has to become a distance with other Religious Fanatics, like Huckabee.

The old pissed off Military Generals from a forgotten time, who think stomping in with guns blazing as their idea of a Cowboy Era Mentality, need to wake up, and learn or they should have learned, America can't fix anything in the Middle East with Bullets and Bombs. They should have learned that long ago with the Vietnam Era mis conception that weaponry would win something in those places.

The old John Wayne and other 1950's and 1960;s TV Character Fictional Imagery, and the likes of the 1940's and 1950's movies of White Men stomping around the world, is best left in the fiction of the 1940's and 1950's.

Trump set himself up for a mass of stuff with all that "fire breather talk" for some hard times and big challenges. Because you can't just "flip the script of a nations" as if one is a dictator.

Again, he needs to check the people around him and re-assess their mentality and demeanor, because campaigning in one things, and Presiding as President is TOTALLY Different.

All the hard luck twisted minded Right Wingers who think they get to repeat the vile history of the past, need to awaken. There is no revival of some White Dominance. Already some are talking like they are flat out nuts and as if they are in some Pre-Civil Rights Deep Southern Backwards System.

Many American, don't so much care about effort to support building Relations with Russia, but they do care that American does not submit itself to any adoption of Russia's Corruption nor of its Ideals of Dictatorship.
We learned from the Relation with China, that A Democracy cane even have a good working Relationship with Communist China, therefore it can have a working relations with Autocratic Russia. Putin, has to know that does not mean there will be any support of him encroaching on anyone, nor does it mean he can disrespect NATO of any NATO Affiliate.

The U.S. will be forced to wake up when it comes to African Continent, because when it realize that China has made very good relations within Africa, American will have to develop are more interactively mutual benefit relations with Africa on a Mutual Respect Level, and not one that has a downward look upon Africa. That's an element that Republican have not considered with seriousness to consider, but they will soon have to drop the International Racial Based Imbalance within its Considerations, and deal with Africa's Continent with a mutual respect and sense of cultural and humane basis of equality.
Therefore,...... Get ready..... to let go of the delusions of some return to a 1950's system......

I'm sure ppl on the progressive fascist regressive left, want to dictate that happen. Those 2 are the limp wristed snowflakes, worst nightmare. If it upsets the left so much, Trump is on the right track to draining the corrupt swamp.
 
Old 11-17-2016, 07:19 PM
 
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Give our President Trump time to work out the kinks. I am sure he is revising his list daily... as it takes time to find the right persons for the jobs!
 
Old 11-17-2016, 11:30 PM
 
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I'm sure ppl on the progressive fascist regressive left, want to dictate that happen. Those 2 are the limp wristed snowflakes, worst nightmare. If it upsets the left so much, Trump is on the right track to draining the corrupt swamp.
That's exactly what I was thinking. If the left is afraid of them, they must be worth keeping.
 
Old 11-17-2016, 11:34 PM
 
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ADD Jeff Sessions to the list.
 
Old 11-17-2016, 11:34 PM
 
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A word to our delusional liberal losers....we don't care what you think, you lost, step aside.
 
Old 11-17-2016, 11:36 PM
 
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Call me crazy but Chris Christie was better then Bannon, Guliani,and Sessions.
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