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Old 11-17-2016, 11:37 PM
 
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Call me crazy but Chris Christie was better then Bannon, Guliani,and Sessions.
Better than what? Getting impeached for shutting down bridges?

 
Old 11-18-2016, 02:12 AM
 
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I talked to a friend at the Cato institute (no one important there), he indicates that the rumors of Trumps view of those who are loyal to him is very accurate.

Will Bannon survive the amount of pressure that is being placed upon Trump is hard to say, but Trump does value loyalty so he just might.
 
Old 11-18-2016, 05:34 AM
 
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I talked to a friend at the Cato institute (no one important there), he indicates that the rumors of Trumps view of those who are loyal to him is very accurate.

Will Bannon survive the amount of pressure that is being placed upon Trump is hard to say, but Trump does value loyalty so he just might.
But what pressure? Who cares what the OP thinks? And I seriously doubt Trump and his team pay any attention to the hysterics and their hissy fits at the NYT and WaPo, who would love to sabotage Trump right from the start.
 
Old 11-18-2016, 06:14 AM
 
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Default "no blind devotion to be given to trump or any man"

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Originally Posted by Tall Traveler View Post
A word to our delusional liberal losers....we don't care what you think, you lost, step aside.
You along with MANY, should be very careful of "blind devotion". There are many white people with this mentality of "He (Trump) is savior"...
The media as well as this site if filled with "white people" claiming devotion as if he is some "divine figure". I'd say many may well want to choose to consider awakening themselves, or pray for a tone down from such blind devotion.

I said: he is the President and we will work with him but, with a close eye upon his acts and actions, his policies and his production of results.
He get's no "blind trust" from me, and thankfulness unto the many who also will not be lulled into some "cult like worship". It is not a case of choosing "selective amnesia" for the sake of patronizing blind worship, as some seem to have done or become to do, therefore, selective amnesia will not give a blind pass unto Trump or anyone else for that matter.

Those among society, who seem to have such consumption of devotion, may well need to awaken unto the reality of this, to grasp fact, that this is simply another human being, and realize he is just one of a long line who has The Office of Presidency. What he does will matter, we may well wish that he does it well and does it honorably.

Some of the Fire Brand Exerciser's he is choosing may well need to be watched and monitored as they take steps, and if people remain aware, they will speak up when, if or as any of these people step beyond the bounds.

This is not like some movie script of "The Great White Hope". So those suddenly embolden with this near arrogance like devotion may want to tone themselves down a notch or more, and get back to the reality of this being a man, not a God. People had that type of Mentality regarding Hitler, and Musollini, and it did not turn out very well for a mass volume of people.

It's a simply matter of holding the man accountable to uphold the dignity, respect the rights of others, and to maintain a sense of professional decorum as well as not to be brash and rash in Choices, Considerations nor actions.

No amount of people being impressed by wealthy and popularity should drive anyone to accept and become blinded by any many who say's "Only I Can Fix It". Anyone telling me that, I'd have to go back and consider what is the long history of summary about an Anti-Christ. Therefore, there is no such as me giving this man some "blind devotion", and certainly not adopting some demeanor of conducts as if "he is our on and only savior".
I as well have seen the display of Republican whom follow blindly with not challenge to correct, blindly as many men have made great calamity, and then they adopt "selective amnesia" to avoid acknowledging the truths that exist.
We've seen Republican Fight against President Obama, to the point they tried to vilify every work he engaged that ultimately got this country back on its feet, and still the Republican system told its following to deny it, fight it and seek to ridicule it and dismiss it at any and every way they could conjure to do. Followed by interjecting a racist tonality in doing so.

No, there's absolutely "NO BLIND DEVOTION TO BE GIVEN TO TRUMP OR ANY MAN".... not by me !!!!

There is concerns and a focused attention, to hope that he does the right things and maintain a humane respect for others, as well as respect for the citizens of not just this nation, but people around the globe. There is hope he can usher and promote democratic cause to respect the premise and foundation of "humane equality of being" into and unto the racist; to promote them to become educated in the humanities, to learn and develop a sense of regard and respect for the equality of all human beings. If he fails at that point, the ripple effect will become global and that is not a good thing for America, nor the World of People.
 
Old 11-18-2016, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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Get over it. you lost!


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Originally Posted by Chance and Change View Post
If you have no sense of perspectives that's your choice.

In this life, one has the choice to or not to, Give attention to Domestic and Global Politic's and gain or develop a perspective be able to see beyond being a blind follower with no concept or idea of what is within the mix of it all.

You can comment as to your ideas of what you think or not; as I will continue to comment on my ideas of what I think.
We each know, we are not in the seat of the Presidency.
 
Old 11-18-2016, 06:39 AM
 
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Whoever puts "communism" and "China" in the same sentence in 2016 should not be allowed to talk about politics.

Communism? It just shocks me how so many Americans still understand this word so wrong. Authoritarian, yes, communism? Are these people still stuck in the 1960s, the peak of the cold war and never moved ahead?
 
Old 11-18-2016, 06:48 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Yes, the republicans are going to do what limp wristed liberal snowflakes suggest, to make them happy.....


Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Last edited by BentBow; 11-18-2016 at 06:57 AM..
 
Old 11-18-2016, 06:49 AM
 
Location: az
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Originally Posted by Chance and Change View Post
You along with MANY, should be very careful of "blind devotion". There are many white people with this mentality of "He (Trump) is savior"...
The media as well as this site if filled with "white people" claiming devotion as if he is some "divine figure". I'd say many may well want to choose to consider awakening themselves, or pray for a tone down from such blind devotion.

I said: he is the President and we will work with him but, with a close eye upon his acts and actions, his policies and his production of results.
He get's no "blind trust" from me, and thankfulness unto the many who also will not be lulled into some "cult like worship". It is not a case of choosing "selective amnesia" for the sake of patronizing blind worship, as some seem to have done or become to do, therefore, selective amnesia will not give a blind pass unto Trump or anyone else for that matter.

Those among society, who seem to have such consumption of devotion, may well need to awaken unto the reality of this, to grasp fact, that this is simply another human being, and realize he is just one of a long line who has The Office of Presidency. What he does will matter, we may well wish that he does it well and does it honorably.

Some of the Fire Brand Exerciser's he is choosing may well need to be watched and monitored as they take steps, and if people remain aware, they will speak up when, if or as any of these people step beyond the bounds.

This is not like some movie script of "The Great White Hope". So those suddenly embolden with this near arrogance like devotion may want to tone themselves down a notch or more, and get back to the reality of this being a man, not a God. People had that type of Mentality regarding Hitler, and Musollini, and it did not turn out very well for a mass volume of people.

It's a simply matter of holding the man accountable to uphold the dignity, respect the rights of others, and to maintain a sense of professional decorum as well as not to be brash and rash in Choices, Considerations nor actions.

No amount of people being impressed by wealthy and popularity should drive anyone to accept and become blinded by any many who say's "Only I Can Fix It". Anyone telling me that, I'd have to go back and consider what is the long history of summary about an Anti-Christ. Therefore, there is no such as me giving this man some "blind devotion", and certainly not adopting some demeanor of conducts as if "he is our on and only savior".
I as well have seen the display of Republican whom follow blindly with not challenge to correct, blindly as many men have made great calamity, and then they adopt "selective amnesia" to avoid acknowledging the truths that exist.
We've seen Republican Fight against President Obama, to the point they tried to vilify every work he engaged that ultimately got this country back on its feet, and still the Republican system told its following to deny it, fight it and seek to ridicule it and dismiss it at any and every way they could conjure to do. Followed by interjecting a racist tonality in doing so.

No, there's absolutely "NO BLIND DEVOTION TO BE GIVEN TO TRUMP OR ANY MAN".... not by me !!!!

There is concerns and a focused attention, to hope that he does the right things and maintain a humane respect for others, as well as respect for the citizens of not just this nation, but people around the globe. There is hope he can usher and promote democratic cause to respect the premise and foundation of "humane equality of being" into and unto the racist; to promote them to become educated in the humanities, to learn and develop a sense of regard and respect for the equality of all human beings. If he fails at that point, the ripple effect will become global and that is not a good thing for America, nor the World of People.
More emotional angst

* clap clap clap *

Encore!
 
Old 11-18-2016, 07:05 AM
 
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The race-card is dead in the Trump administration....he's not playing.
 
Old 11-18-2016, 07:34 AM
 
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Originally Posted by botticelli View Post
Whoever puts "communism" and "China" in the same sentence in 2016 should not be allowed to talk about politics.

Communism? It just shocks me how so many Americans still understand this word so wrong. Authoritarian, yes, communism? Are these people still stuck in the 1960s, the peak of the cold war and never moved ahead?

Quote:
Its a system continually evolving, but has not tossed out variable principles of communist ideals (Link) - It has never been of the type that was of function in the Soviet Union.

"The CPC (Communist Party of China) is still committed to communist thought and continues to participate in the International Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties each year. According to the party constitution the CPC adheres to Marxism–Leninism, Mao Zedong Thought, socialism with Chinese characteristics, Deng Xiaoping Theory, Three Represents and the Scientific Outlook on Development. The official explanation for China's economic reforms is that the country is in the primary stage of socialism, a developmental stage similar to the capitalist mode of production. The planned economy established under Mao Zedong was replaced by the socialist market economy, the current economic system, on the basis that "Practice is the Sole Criterion for the Truth".

The CPC is claiming that "democracy is the lifeline of the Party, the lifeline of socialism". But for democracy to be implemented, and functioning properly, there needs to be centralization.Democracy in any form, the CPC claims, needs centralism, since without centralism there will be no order.

Deng Xiaoping Theory was added to the party constitution at the 14th National Congress. The concepts of "socialism with Chinese characteristics" and "the primary stage of socialism" were credited to the theory. Deng Xiaoping Theory can be defined as a belief that state socialism and state planning is not by definition communist, and that market mechanisms are class neutral. In addition, the party needs to react to the changing situation dynamically; to know if a certain policy is obsolete or not, the party had to "seek truth from facts" and follow the slogan "practice is the sole criterion for the truth". At the 14th National Congress, Jiang reiterated Deng's mantra that it was unnecessary to ask if something was socialist or capitalist, since the important factor was whether it worked.
I think people need to consider the word in the broad context of the word, not in the old adage of "some evil force."
China' structure is complex and comprised of a mixture of ideological elements, which gives it some forms of being unique and it works!!!!

At some point America will too find out that it benefits by learning from "others around the world" and how those whom have successes, function.

We need to be open to learn and grow.....

If American can get past the ignorance of "the type" of racism which exist in this country - we will find we are a mix of many ideological elements as well.

What China has above us, is within China, they consider themselves "All to be Chinese", they may have their various cultures and image feature of a fuller spectrum and regional identity elements but in the whole they still All unite in the point of considering themselves Chinese. - Whereas, we have crazed struggle within of radical elements which promote Identity collusion; because we have racist and bigots, who still don't want to see, think nor feel in the heart that All people and All Ethnicity and All Cultures in America are American's.
China also understand what is important as to Centralist premise, whereas in America, we have people/groups forever trying to fight against our Federal Governance System.

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