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popular vote doesn't win the Presidency......just like most rushing yards or time of possession doesn't win football games.
Popular votes means that Democrat have a huge advantage in 2 states, California and New York where they win by super margins but the rest of the 48 states, the GOP controls the government by popular demand in the house, senate and most governorship and state legislatures.
If you argue margins, then you are making a flawed argument as Republicans win Southern and Mountain West states by the same or even larger margins.
you dont control House(state or federal) or state senates by "popular demand", districts are gerrymandered.
which is meaningless, just as most yards gained does not determine a Superbowl winner.
Murphy would get crushed.
The GOP will keep winning the EC until the Dems start promoting what pleases the Rust Belt, and that means a nominee 100% anti NAFTA as it existed under BC to BO, anti TPP and any new deal unless it is a net USA job creator, which means we would have to export > we import via any new deal.
Middle America hates Dems, and as you found out the Acela Belt plus West Coast < 270 ECs.
Any hope for your party rests with a Rust Belt sweep, and nothing less.
I'd prefer Kamala Harris, the new California Senator. She's a solid progressive who doesn't seem to have many of the unelectable qualities that Hillary had. I'd still vote for Murphy, though.
Lately, I am seriously becoming a fan of Democratic U.S. Senator from CT, Chris Murphy. He is on the national stage now, often on prime time television networks, and has made a prominent name for himself, particularly when it comes to matters of gun reform and foreign policy. As a Democrat, I hope he considers running for POTUS in 2020, as I believe he possesses the qualities that we need in a president. He is very smart, young, progressive and has 10+ years of political experience as house representative and U.S. senator now.
He is definitely a rising star in the Democratic Party.
What do you think, Democrats?
Over time, perhaps, he'll have more name recognition. At least it's one person not over the age of 70 who could represent Democrats later on. But even he will have a hard time beating a deep Republican bench.
which is meaningless, just as most yards gained does not determine a Superbowl winner.
Murphy would get crushed.
The GOP will keep winning the EC until the Dems start promoting what pleases the Rust Belt, and that means a nominee 100% anti NAFTA as it existed under BC to BO, anti TPP and any new deal unless it is a net USA job creator, which means we would have to export > we import via any new deal.
Middle America hates Dems, and as you found out the Acela Belt plus West Coast < 270 ECs.
Any hope for your party rests with a Rust Belt sweep, and nothing less.
This is the problem with your argument
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Originally Posted by dsjj251
Unless you are arguing that there were only 102 Democrats in the house and 27 in the senate, then you are proving my point.
156 Democrats in the House voted against NAFTA
Lets break this down by the states that matter,
Wisconsin
No D Barca, Peter WI 1st
Aye R Klug, Scott WI 2nd
Aye R Gunderson, Steven WI 3rd
No D Kleczka, Jerry WI 4th
No D Barrett, Thomas WI 5th
Aye R Petri, Tom WI 6th
No D Obey, Dave WI 7th
Aye R Roth, Toby WI 8th
Aye R Sensenbrenner, James WI 9th
Pennsylvania
No D Foglietta, Thomas PA 1st
No D Blackwell, Lucien PA 2nd
No D Borski, Robert PA 3rd
No D Klink, Ron PA 4th
Aye R Clinger, William PA 5th
No D Holden, Tim PA 6th
No R Weldon, Curt PA 7th
Aye R Greenwood, Jim PA 8th
No R Shuster, Bud PA 9th
Aye R McDade, Joseph PA 10th
No D Kanjorski, Paul PA 11th
No D Murtha, John PA 12th
No D Margolies-Mezvinsky, Marjorie PA 13th
No D Coyne, William PA 14th
No D McHale, Paul PA 15th
Aye R Walker, Robert PA 16th
Aye R Gekas, George PA 17th
No R Santorum, Rick PA 18th
Aye R Goodling, William PA 19th
No D Murphy, Austin PA 20th
Aye R Ridge, Thomas PA 21st
and
]Michigan
No D Stupak, Bart MI 1st
Aye R Hoekstra, Pete MI 2nd
Aye R Camp, Dave MI 4th
No D Barcia, James MI 5th
Aye R Upton, Fred MI 6th
Aye R Smith, Nick MI 7th
No D Carr, Bob MI 8th
No D Kildee, Dale MI 9th
No D Bonior, David MI 10th
Aye R Knollenberg, Joe MI 11th
No D Levin, Sander MI 12th
No D Ford, William MI 13th
No D Conyers, John MI 14th
No D Collins, Barbara-Rose MI 15th
No D Dingell, John MI 16th
Democrats as a whole didnt support NAFTA the majority voted against it. And not a single one in those 3 states voted for it, and yet, somehow, Democrats got blamed for it.
Republicans are the pro NAFTA party. Even John Kasich and Rob Portman(won re election the same night trump won) voted for it.
Republicans are the pro NAFTA party. Even John Kasich and Rob Portman(won re election the same night trump won) voted for it.
Your logic is flawed.
Wrong, as with DT's win, you will see anti NAFTA as is Republicans run. Pence, the next nominee when DT hangs them up, is tied to the platform he ran on with DT.
Kasich and Portman will never be nominees.
Dems as nominees are in bed with Wall St. Hence they back bad trade deals for Middle America.
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