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Old 11-25-2016, 09:51 PM
 
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I really don't know where people come up with these kooky ideas. Aside from the absurdity of having cities becoming states, they would implode within a few years.

Many of the cites you mentioned need the surrounding suburbs to support the city with tax dollars, as the urban hell holes have too many takers and not enough producers to be self sustaining.
For example in Miami-Dade, some of the more affluent suburbs broke away and created their own cities. Miami-Dade immediately passed rules prohibiting this because they were going to be left with all the ghetto areas with no tax base, but the highest per capita consumers of city services such as police, fire & rescue.

So while these cities do have high concentrations of people that vote for politicians who will care for them from cradle to grave with other peoples money, they are hardly capable of functioning as a city, much less a state.
There are plenty of cities that support the entire state with their tax dollars. If they were able to keep their tax dollars and rural areas had to fund their own infrastructure, police, schools, roads, etc. how would they pay for it? It's not the suburbs paying for that. It's the dense number of taxpaying workers in cities paying for those rural areas. Those same dense taxpaying workers whose votes count for less.

 
Old 11-25-2016, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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Detroit would literally be in complete ruin without the rest of Michigan.
 
Old 11-25-2016, 10:05 PM
 
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Detroit would literally be in complete ruin without the rest of Michigan.
Let's compare who is funding entire states like Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, etc.
 
Old 11-25-2016, 10:19 PM
 
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Its time for the red rural areas of blue states to break away! The vast majority of rural counties in so many blue states such as Minnesota, Illinois, Virginia, and even New York etc vote solidly very red! No longer should a liberal metro area in an otherwise very red state dictate how all the state's electoral votes all go!

I'm not being serious here, but you can see how this can be flipped the other way. It could just be tit for tat and a battle of gerrymandering until we're back to square one again. And last time I checked it was generally the democrats that cried foul the most with regards to being supposedly outmanuvered on the map. So be careful what you wish for.
 
Old 11-25-2016, 10:22 PM
 
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Its time for the red rural areas of blue states to break away! The vast majority of rural counties in so many blue states such as Minnesota, Illinois, Virginia, and even New York etc vote solidly very red! No longer should a liberal metro area in an otherwise very red state dictate how all the state's electoral votes all go!
I would be absolutely fine with that as long as those liberal metro areas get to keep their own tax dollars instead of sending their own tax dollars to rural areas within their respective states.
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