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Old 12-01-2016, 09:51 AM
 
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Originally Posted by brentwoodgirl View Post
You should read the comments on the articles about the TN wildfires on WaPo. The articles detail people dying, searching for their spouses and children, losing evrything. And the comments are full of heartless liberals saying TN deserves it because Trump won here.

Liberals are calling the victims toothless hillbillies and rednecks who don't deserve any help from the government. One comment suggested that trump would hold a bbq over the burning houses.


Almost none of the comments actually showed any concern for the people. After watching the news coverage today of people crying who can't find their loved ones, it's more than I can take. These liberal commenters have no soul.
I read them also - people won't forget this.

The entire 2016 Election cycle was outside of anything I've ever seen.
The one thing that I really learned from all of it was that there is a significant and LOUD segment of our Society that literally have no boundaries in their callousness toward their fellow citizens .... all based on a Leftist Ideology. It's pretty scary to watch the Left and it's ceased to be a joking matter.

Anyone who thinks they don't really mean these horrible things they say and post is just not paying attention.
Anyone who disagrees with them is at risk.

 
Old 12-01-2016, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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Originally Posted by natalie469 View Post
Republicans decided from day one that they would not work with Obama. He has fought an uphill battle ever since. Sounds like you really don't know what's been going on in the world of politics.
Exactly. They gave the current POTUS so much difficulty over the years and now they have the nerve to complain. There are ZERO excuses for these new clowns coming to DC. They own it ALL.
 
Old 12-01-2016, 11:21 AM
 
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Originally Posted by TheMoreYouKnow View Post
On a far left wing, fringe forum filled with hateful idiots I read the following post, it's a reply to comment about the recount efforts and whether they should continue.

The person replied with...

"If Trump's EC "victory" can be maligned, impugned, and made to be viewed as suspect, it de-legitimizes him as POTUS and hamstrings him for the duration of his term.

This benefits OUR team - that would be the Democrats."
- Random DUmmy

Do any democrats on CD actually believe that this might work out in your favor? Are any of you willing to admit that this plan sounds good?
Dems have always been poor losers and will do ANYTHING to "win".

"The end justifies the means".
 
Old 12-01-2016, 11:23 AM
 
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Obstructionism is what the repubs used against Obama so yeah, it's a sound strategy.

It doesn't seem to bother voters that much.

Bigger issue is that they keep calling all the moderates that voted for trump stupid racists....because they hated Hillary just a little bit more. Constantly demonizing large voting segments is always a bad idea.

I didn't vote for Trump but I am definitely annoyed with all the democrats attacks on my race\gender demographic as being *bad* racists and women haters blah blah blah.
"Obstructionism is what the repubs used against Obama"

Obstructionism was created by the dems many year ago.

I believe you need to brush upon your history.
 
Old 12-01-2016, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I did not read anywhere the poster mentioning this website in particular, bur rather a far-left fringe forum. Regardless, this theory is out there and covered by several sites:

MSNBC

Caddell: Recount Aimed at Delegitimizing Trump;

There are others. Google is your friend.
In a world where you can simply copy and paste, and specifically on a forum where you can quote someone directly, the OP decided not to mention the actual name of the poster or website.

That isnt even slightly believable.
 
Old 12-01-2016, 11:36 AM
 
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Those people are pathetic, and 'karma will be a b' for them. After seeing television coverage of the fires, and then some pictures on the internet, my first reaction was one of compassion. Sadly, my second reaction (without reading the comments sections re ANY internet stories about the fire, and BEFORE reading your post above) was 'Will progressives anywhere in the U.S. be glad that this happened in a state that voted for Trump simply because the state voted for Trump? I don't know if you live in the Williamson County or Davidson County part of Brentwood, and I know Brentwood is 220-235 miles away from the fires, but some of those liberal commenters are feeding off of ignorant progressive stereotypes about TN and likely don't have a clue that Williamson County is one of the 20 wealthiest counties in the United States. I have some friends who live in Franklin (a married couple). He's a Nashville area native, and she's from California. I doubt proverbial wild horses could ever drag them out of Franklin (as a place to live), and definitely couldn't drag them out of Williamson County....and they can afford to live anywhere.

I heard via some form of media (I live in TX) that Dolly (through her foundation) is going to give the impacted families $1,000 per month (for each family/household) for as long as is necessary until they 'get back on their feet'. I think that is a wonderful gesture. I hope the chaos in the area is untangled ASAP, and that the flames are extinguished ASAP. Beyond human compassion for the losses, I hope you don't have any family in Gatlinburg, Pigeon Forge, or the surrounding area that you personally have to worry about.

There is a poster (who posts to both P&OC and Elections) who claims that she wanted everyone to have health insurance and didn't mind paying more for her own insurance to secure that end.....but now that some of those voters in WI, MI, OH, and PA were responsible for Trump getting elected, that supposed concern for those people has evaporated. She doesn't want her tax dollars going toward them, and wouldn't mind if the U.S. broke up into multiple countries so that (among other reasons) her tax dollars didn't have to help people in such states. She's either truly concerned about the insurance plight of the people she's claiming she was concerned about, or she isn't. If that concern was conditional re supporting her preferred candidate for POTUS, then that concern wasn't real in the first place. It was faux concern....fake and insincere.
Thanks for the kind words. We live in Williamson County, and it is a very nice place to live. Thankfully we don't have any loved ones affected by the fires.

It didn't even occur to me to expect nasty political comments when I opened the first article. Naïve right? My husband is a true independent who hate politics, and he was floored reading the comments. The articles are describing people dying in the fires, and people commented that they hoped the entire South burned alive after voting for Trump.

It goes to the topic of this thread. People seeing that kind of nastiness about dying and suffering people will push them the other way.
 
Old 12-01-2016, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Originally Posted by TheMoreYouKnow View Post
On a far left wing, fringe forum filled with hateful idiots I read the following post, it's a reply to comment about the recount efforts and whether they should continue.

The person replied with...

"If Trump's EC "victory" can be maligned, impugned, and made to be viewed as suspect, it de-legitimizes him as POTUS and hamstrings him for the duration of his term.

This benefits OUR team - that would be the Democrats."
- Random DUmmy

Do any democrats on CD actually believe that this might work out in your favor? Are any of you willing to admit that this plan sounds good?
I think a whole lot of dems, not all but a good many of them, just can't deal with losing....just like if Hillary would have won, the very same thing would be reversed.

The problem I have is labeling people...which shows how uninformed people are....I don't believe society has progressed, but more so, regressed.

people were kinder to each other years ago....there wasn't nearly as much hate...people obeyed rules and laws...today people run traffic lights and text while driving, and they don't think twice about it....they just don't care.

We are presently living in a world where people have become individualists and really don't care about others...just their own personal gains...

when you have a break down of rules, regulations and laws, society eventually breaks down and works against each other and that is what has happened. And there isn't one thing to blame, but many things which has caused this....one of them is, lack of education....I cannot believe how little most, not all, but most college kids understand and know.

Here is an example. My cousins daughter, has everything done for her. She is in her second year of college, never worked a day in her life, never as much as put her dirty dishes in the dishwasher....her mother does it all...pays her college, pays her room and board at college...gives her a charge card and pays those bills....

What do you expect when kids are being raised like this today?

They know nothing about being a team member, every thing is me, me, me....and now you send them off to college, and she doesn't get along with anyone, no one likes her or her attitude.

She wasn't supposed to have a cat where she lived, but low and behold, she brings a cat home....and then who takes the cat but her mother, who already has cats and a dog?

Ya gotta blame the parents, and now they go to universites that are so liberal....and professors teach socialism....I don't believe a lot of Americans realize how Universities, influence our kids political views and attitudes.
 
Old 12-01-2016, 11:39 AM
 
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We know that area well Brentwoodgirl. My husband retired out of law enforcement in a neighboring county. We know plenty of first responders and civilians in that area, know the mountains well, and are heartbroken for the people and for that beautiful region.

I hope people listen to the response of some progressives when it comes to these fires, and they finally begin to understand exactly what hate looks like. Real hate. The kind of hate that feeds off the death, destruction and heartbreak of others. It's not a pretty picture, and these people have so little self-awareness, empathy or humanity, that they don't even realize how ugly they are.

I've seen the videos but can't really even imagine what Gatlinburg looks like right now. And the mountains...........it'll take my lifetime and more for it to recover. Keeping everyone in that region in my thoughts for safety.
Thank you. It is heartbreaking. There is one man still searching for his wife and two daughters. I keep checking every few hours hoping they have been found alive. I don't understand how people can have such hate for other people (based solely on living in a state that voted a certain way) that they celebrate in the death and destruction. It blows my mind.
 
Old 12-01-2016, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Originally Posted by TheMoreYouKnow View Post
On a far left wing, fringe forum filled with hateful idiots I read the following post, it's a reply to comment about the recount efforts and whether they should continue.

The person replied with...

"If Trump's EC "victory" can be maligned, impugned, and made to be viewed as suspect, it de-legitimizes him as POTUS and hamstrings him for the duration of his term.

This benefits OUR team - that would be the Democrats."
- Random DUmmy

Do any democrats on CD actually believe that this might work out in your favor? Are any of you willing to admit that this plan sounds good?
Trump just has to make sure they count every vote which means they need to keep going even if they don't make the deadline.

You need to read this. It shows what they are really up to.

"The recounts, if done by hand, which can be demanded, may take longer than the last day for completing the official counts in a state and directing Electoral College voters. If all 3 states miss the deadline, Trump is at 260, Hillary at 232. No one hits 270. Then this goes to Congress, where the House voting 1 vote per state elects Trump, and Senate selects Pence. If this goes to the US House and Senate, and the result is the same as result from the Electoral College without the recounts, why do it? The answer is to make Trump seem even more illegitimate, that he did not win the popular vote (he lost by over 2.1 million), he did not win the Electoral College (did not reach 270), and was elected by being inserted into the presidency by members of his own party in Congress."

Blog: The Democrats? real strategy in launching recounts
 
Old 12-01-2016, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Ya gotta blame the parents, and now they go to universites that are so liberal....and professors teach socialism....I don't believe a lot of Americans realize how Universities, influence our kids political views and attitudes.
Universities are liberal because they are diverse. That is a good thing, not a bad one.
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