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Old 12-04-2016, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Murphy, North Carolina
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Never liked her! If Johnson and her did not show up on the ballot in PA MI WI hillary would have won!!!
Well, they did. So too bad. We can't just vote for a candidate from one of the two major parties. There are times where we need other choices too, you know. For those who don't like either one.

And this is coming from a Trump voter.

But if i had voted for Stein, i'd be wishing to god i hadn't right now.
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Old 12-04-2016, 09:20 AM
 
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Well, they did. So too bad. We can't just vote for a candidate from one of the two major parties. There are times where we need other choices too, you know. For those who don't like either one.

And this is coming from a Trump voter.

But if i had voted for Stein, i'd be wishing to god i hadn't right now.
Addressing my points in post 9 tell me why.
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Old 12-04-2016, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The (R)'s and (D)'s have us in 5 wars and $20 trillion in debt. Am I upset that someone is stirring the pot?

No.
Hey--we agree on something.
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Old 12-04-2016, 09:29 AM
 
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Hey--we agree on something.
We probably agree on many things but much of it can't be admitted in public.
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Old 12-04-2016, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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I've covered this. She knows that is where the money is at. Who is going to donate to recount New York? No one.
Who is saying anything about recounting NY? Note, she would've had more legitimacy and a perhaps even more money (from conservatives) if she called for recounts in, say, Maine or Minnesota, two states where HRC narrowly won/were "closer" than expected. But, no, she's only seeking recounts in states that Trump narrowly won based on a theory that has zero supporting evidence. And she's taking her donors for the fools they were, refusing to spend a million dollars as bond to secure a statewide PA recount, despite having raised over $7 million.
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Old 12-04-2016, 09:53 AM
 
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Who is saying anything about recounting NY? Note, she would've had more legitimacy and a perhaps even more money (from conservatives) if she called for recounts in, say, Maine or Minnesota, two states where HRC narrowly won/were "closer" than expected. But, no, she's only seeking recounts in states that Trump narrowly based on a theory that has zero supporting evidence. And she's taking her donors for the fools they were, refusing to spend a million dollars as bond to secure a statewide PA recount, despite having raised over $7 million.
Stop it. "Conservatives" were never going to send her a penny.
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Old 12-04-2016, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Stop it. "Conservatives" were never going to send her a penny.
You don't know if you don't try. But, at the end of the day, what "harm" would've come if she had asked for recounts in close states that HRC won like Maine and Minnesota in addition to asking for recounts in those three Trump states? I can't think of any. She still would've gotten her millions from deranged leftists and possibly money from conservatives. Ultimately, she'd be seen as less of a Democrat-tool by only seeking recounts in states that would benefit HRC.

Hell, there is still time to demand recounts in HRC states She already has her money from deranged leftists so doesn't have to worry about that.
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Old 12-04-2016, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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I spent about 10 minutes reading about stein, then decided I could not vote for a flake like her.
then I spent about 20 minutes reading about johnson, and decided that I could not vote for him, either.
I did not have to think or read about hillary, that decision was made long before she "officially" became the candidate. No way would I vote for what IMO would be "obama 2.0".
While tempting, I felt that wasting my vote on myself, or Mickey Mouse, or Alfred E. Neuman would be really dumb.
IIRC, there were one or two others on the ballot, but they were such non-entities that voting for them would be simply stupid, IMO.
That left trump. So, in order to vote AGAINST hillary (and stein, and johnson) in a meaningful way, I filled in the oval next to his name.
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Old 12-04-2016, 10:05 AM
 
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Never liked her! If Johnson and her did not show up on the ballot in PA MI WI hillary would have won!!!
And Trump voters could whine like you that if Johnson and Castle weren't on the ballot he would have won by a larger margin.

Trump was a poor candidate - Hillary was a worse candidate.
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Old 12-04-2016, 10:10 AM
 
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You don't know if you don't try. But, at the end of the day, what "harm" would've come if she had asked for recounts in close states that HRC won like Maine and Minnesota in addition to asking for recounts in those three Trump states? I can't think of any. She still would've gotten her millions from deranged leftists and possibly money from conservatives. Ultimately, she'd be seen as less of a Democrat-tool by only seeking recounts in states that would benefit HRC.

Hell, there is still time to demand recounts in HRC states She already has her money from deranged leftists so doesn't have to worry about that.
While she raised an impressive amount she didn't raise enough to count multiple states. And in the end, I already discussed this. How do you lose?

She finds nothing and we can rest easy. She finds fraud and you have a legitimate argument for stricter voter I.D. requirements.
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