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Old 12-05-2016, 10:40 AM
 
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Because they get disgusted by the process and stay home. The unfortunate truth is that there has been more to gain by firing up your base than tracking to the middle since 2000. That was the year Gore lost to many leftward voters and the election by the scantest of margins.


If you look at 04 Bush & company ran a masterful campaign by appealing towards the middle & security voters while at the same time throwing far right ballot initiatives on the ballot everywhere possible. They juiced conservative turnout from those more interested in stopping abortion access and specifically gay marriage. And while those folks were at the polls they went ahead and voted for a President. But it was those initiatives that got them there.
Yeah, true and the divide is going to keep growing wider I guess...unfortunately. SO many people in this country are socially liberal and fiscally conservative, but there isn't much of an option to vote for a candidate that represents those views.
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Old 12-05-2016, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Actually,Elizabeth Warren seems very likeable.
Oh sure she may look likeable but she certainly doesn't act likable. Anyone who lies to get special treatments becomes very unlikable. Get her out of her home state and see how likable people think she is.
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Old 12-11-2016, 02:31 PM
 
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Still wondering about this. He might have appealed to the working class more but is still a loon like the rest of the Democrats when it comes to social issues and the Republicans could have easily talked about his policies that are similar to communism and paying more money for other people which could have hurt him bad.
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Old 12-11-2016, 03:24 PM
 
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Still wondering about this. He might have appealed to the working class more but is still a loon like the rest of the Democrats when it comes to social issues and the Republicans could have easily talked about his policies that are similar to communism and paying more money for other people which could have hurt him bad.
His policies are similar to Franklin D Roosevelt. Do you consider FDR a communist simply because he supported to invest in the quality of life of Americans instead of funneling ever more money into the hands of the big money donor class?
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Old 12-11-2016, 04:02 PM
 
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His policies are similar to Franklin D Roosevelt. Do you consider FDR a communist simply because he supported to invest in the quality of life of Americans instead of funneling ever more money into the hands of the big money donor class?
The "donor class" profited quite handsomely from the war.
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Old 12-11-2016, 05:15 PM
 
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The "donor class" profited quite handsomely from the war.
Which FDR donors are you talking about and do you believe they managed to convince the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor?
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Old 12-11-2016, 05:33 PM
 
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His policies are similar to Franklin D Roosevelt. Do you consider FDR a communist simply because he supported to invest in the quality of life of Americans instead of funneling ever more money into the hands of the big money donor class?


Sanders complains about the concept of a meritocracy and wants open borders. Probably wouldn't have helped in the general election
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Old 12-11-2016, 05:41 PM
 
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Success? You must have a strange definition of success.
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Old 12-11-2016, 05:41 PM
 
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Sanders complains about the concept of a meritocracy and wants open borders. Probably wouldn't have helped in the general election
Wrong on both accounts. Sanders complains about the concept of plutocracy

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Plutocracy (from Greek πλοῦτος, ploutos, meaning "wealth", and κράτος, kratos, meaning "power, dominion, rule") or plutarchy, is a form of oligarchy and defines a society ruled or controlled by the small minority of the wealthiest citizens. The first known use of the term was in 1652.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutocracy
Sanders is a strong believer in meritocracy, thats why he is so much against plutocracy and crony capitalism.

Sanders doesnt want "open borders".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5PRgmRVcKY
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Old 12-11-2016, 05:46 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Sanders' success at packing stadiums with huge crowds had nothing to do with running against Hillary Clinton. He was popular because the summed up his positions very simply and clearly:

Free Medicare for All
Free public college education
$15/hour living wage
Break up the big banks
Stop the legalized bribery going on in Washington DC

This is what fired up the millennial voters. A clear vision of the federal government being on the side of the common person instead of rigging the game in favor of the 1%. This is exactly the direction the Democrats should go.
Yeah. Free, free, free ...until you realize the taxpayers are paying for all the "free stuff."

$15/hour wage for people with no marketable skills. More job destroying wisdom from the Left.
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