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View Poll Results: Who is Most Responsible That Hillary Won't Be First Woman President?
Obama 23 45.10%
Sanders 2 3.92%
Trump 13 25.49%
Bill Clinton 5 9.80%
I'm Hillary Supporter Who thinks Election was Stolen by Russians, FBI, Electoral Collage, Electrons Protons Fig Newtons and Morons 8 15.69%
Voters: 51. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-06-2016, 06:09 AM
 
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Hillary had the belief she was entitled to the Presidency. She had a lot of baggage and Republicans spread lies about her which didn't help her any. She should have thought about her idea of a private server for the internet. I'm surprised someone on her staff never tried to tell her that it may be a problem in the future for her. It's good to have someone on the staff to give you the truth whether you like what they're saying or not.
Sanders could have won this election but ego's get in the way.....
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Old 12-06-2016, 06:12 AM
 
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You missed the real culprit, Hillary Clinton herself.

Excellent! ......OP: Why wasn't that a choice on the Poll? Hillary Clinton is responsible for her failure. If OP can revise the poll. I will select HER as the reason she is not the president.
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Old 12-08-2016, 04:12 AM
 
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And therein is the misperception.

Obama and Trump
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neither had much (or any) political experience at all.
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Both times Hillary, who had all the traditional qualifications
When Obama got the nomination in 2008, he had spent more time in ELECTED office than Hillary had when she got the nomination in 2016.
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Old 12-08-2016, 07:05 AM
 
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You missed the real culprit, Hillary Clinton herself.
Exactly. She has zero political skills and cannot get elected unless the race is fixed for her. She may be able to win over Democrats, but she will never win over America. She was a glorified housewife living off the name "Clinton". If not married to Bill, she would be a low level manager at some agency in Chicago.
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Old 12-08-2016, 08:48 AM
 
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Hillary lost because she is a woman and women are heavily discriminated in politics. She never lost the popular vote and tried her best but some demographics got unproportional voting rights and screwed her
Can you please explain to me how voting for a woman based on their gender is any different from voting for a man based on their gender?
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Old 12-11-2016, 07:10 AM
 
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Hillary wanted to be first woman President so her name can appear in history books. Had all the connections, big money, MSM and the establishment behind her. Yet her hopes were dashed.

Who is the most responsible.
  • Obama? - Took Nomination From Hillary in 2008 that was supposed to be "hers".
  • Sanders? - Severely wounded Hillary and exposed split between New Democrats and real Progressives
  • Trump? - Won the 2016 Election that many said he would never win.
  • Bill Clinton? - "I did not have sexual relations with that woman". i.e. Political baggage goes back a long way.
What do you think?

You omitted Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin's name from this poll.
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Old 12-11-2016, 02:28 PM
 
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Hillary wanted to be first woman President so her name can appear in history books. Had all the connections, big money, MSM and the establishment behind her. Yet her hopes were dashed.

Who is the most responsible.
  • Obama? - Took Nomination From Hillary in 2008 that was supposed to be "hers".
  • Sanders? - Severely wounded Hillary and exposed split between New Democrats and real Progressives
  • Trump? - Won the 2016 Election that many said he would never win.
  • Bill Clinton? - "I did not have sexual relations with that woman". i.e. Political baggage goes back a long way.
What do you think?
I think you're trying too hard. The election is over. Stop obsessing, get off the boards and go do something constructive for the president-elect.
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Old 12-14-2016, 03:43 PM
 
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"Who is Most Responsible That Hillary Won't Be First Woman President?"


None of the above. It was the majority of the American people outside California, New York, Connecticut and Massachusetts.
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Old 12-14-2016, 03:56 PM
 
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Hillary wanted to be first woman President so her name can appear in history books. Had all the connections, big money, MSM and the establishment behind her. Yet her hopes were dashed.

Who is the most responsible.
  • Obama? - Took Nomination From Hillary in 2008 that was supposed to be "hers".
  • Sanders? - Severely wounded Hillary and exposed split between New Democrats and real Progressives
  • Trump? - Won the 2016 Election that many said he would never win.
  • Bill Clinton? - "I did not have sexual relations with that woman". i.e. Political baggage goes back a long way.
What do you think?
Hillary herself is mainly to blame based on her years of deceit and dishonesty.

That said, if you include Obama based on just the 2008 election, you are likely right.

Almost anyone would have won in 2008 based on the mess we were in, so Hillary could have beaten McCain.

Also, remember back then, she had not screwed up as SoS with the "Russian Reset", "Arab Spring", Benghazi (and the infamous lies about it) etc.
Nor her decision to have a private server as SoS, to control her emails for her own politician benefit.
So yes Obama snatched away her best chance in 2008, and also helped to scuttle her in 2016 after his abysmal 8 years of division, radical leftist agenda, etc.

Good observation and take on it. I think you are the first person I've read or heard look at it that way.
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Old 12-14-2016, 04:15 PM
 
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Missing 1 choice. Hillary is why she lost. Hillary's past, Hillary's arrogance, Hillary's lies, her disrespect of blue collar America. Hillary is why Hillary lost.
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