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Old 12-11-2016, 07:04 AM
 
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Irrelevant. The presidential election is unique because it is a media spectacle with billions worth of free media time and unique name recognition potential for the two candidates.

98% of races for Congress and state legislatures are won by the candidates with most money and name recognition.
You just made this number up. You have no argument. The incumbent has the name recognition and wins most of the time. That is part of the problem. People willing to vote for those who have failed them because it's their guy failing them.

 
Old 12-11-2016, 07:09 AM
 
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Now with Trump proven to be a communist sympathizer working with the Russians. How is that going to make America Great ????
 
Old 12-11-2016, 07:10 AM
 
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Now with Trump proven to be a communist sympathizer working with the Russians. How is that going to make America Great ????
By not going to war with them. We would be a far better country if the last two presidents had understood that.
 
Old 12-11-2016, 07:11 AM
 
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You just made this number up. You have no argument. The incumbent has the name recognition and wins most of the time. That is part of the problem. People willing to vote for those who have failed them because it's their guy failing them.
The number is very reasonable looking at the past decades of political races. Try challenging an incumbent with no money and name recognition. You'll get crushed. And the incumbent got there as a result of being well funded and had high name recognition in almost all cases.
 
Old 12-11-2016, 07:11 AM
 
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98% of races for Congress and state legislatures are won by the candidates with most money and name recognition.
This is for you to prove. Just stating it, because you attempt to make a narrative, is irrelevant.

Hillary spent more than 2X Trump, yet lost. This speaks for itself.
 
Old 12-11-2016, 07:13 AM
 
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This is for you to prove. Just stating it, because you attempt to make a narrative, is irrelevant.

Hillary spent more than 2X Trump, yet lost. This speaks for itself.
The presidential election is just one of thousands of election races in America. The candidates get unique opportunities for name recognition. Who in America did not know who Trump was on the election day??!

Its ridiculous to point out that Trump winning the presidential election somehow proves that money and name recognition in politics is not important.

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Old 12-11-2016, 07:15 AM
 
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Irrelevant. The presidential election is unique because it is a media spectacle with billions worth of free media time and unique name recognition potential for the two candidates.

98% of races for Congress and state legislatures are won by the candidates with most money and name recognition.
Okay if the GOP is the big bad Daddy Warbucks party that the Dems seem to think it is, why doesn't the GOP have a 98-2 control of the Senate and 98% of the House? I think the answer is obvious: The Democrats are just as much a part of the problem of buying political office by outspending your opponent.

I'd love to see serious limits placed on campaigns as my own party -- the Libertarian Party -- has a vastly better message but cannot even hope to spend on the same levels as the DNC and GOP. We should get shoved off the stage just because the duopoly has all the money behind them.

But I am correct in pointing out that Trump just broke a pretty significant trend here. No presidential candidate -- probably ever -- has been outspent by such margins and still won. That is encouraging.
 
Old 12-11-2016, 07:16 AM
 
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The presidential election is just one of thousands of election races in America. The candidates get unique opportunities for name recognition. Who in America did not know who Trump was on the election day??!

Its ridiculous to point out that Trump winning the presidential election somehow proves that money and name recognition in politics is not important.
So far, no proof on your part.
 
Old 12-11-2016, 07:16 AM
 
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The number is very reasonable looking at the past decades of political races. Try challenging an incumbent with no money and name recognition. You'll get crushed. And the incumbent got there as a result of being well funded and had high name recognition in almost all cases.
Yours is nothing more than a generalization. Money did not take the (D)'s from where they were eight years ago to where they are now especially when you consider the (D)'s spent as much if not more money.

Ignoring those who they need to vote for them did.
 
Old 12-11-2016, 07:23 AM
 
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As long as the Senate does away with kickbacks from Lobbyist, end Government/Corporation campaign financing, abolishes the Death Penalty, makes LGBT Marriage have same rights as Male/Female marriage Constitutional Ammendment, Constitutional Ammendment regarding abortion legal up to 21 weeks, privitize social security, make Marijuana legal via a Constitutional Ammendment, Universal Medicare, do away with Income Tax replace with National Sales Tax, tariffs on trade, Mental Health Care Reform, and approves heavy taxation on businesses that notoriously affect the environment I am okay with them in control.

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