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Old 12-12-2016, 03:58 PM
 
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The Demcrats are upset that the public knows too much about them. Sorry, but if true, the Russians are "whistleblowers", not "hackers".
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Old 12-12-2016, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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The Demcrats are upset that the public knows too much about them. Sorry, but if true, the Russians are "whistleblowers", not "hackers".
The Russians know just as much about the RNC/Republicans, and they're reportedly using it to blackmail them. If you're not concerned about another country holding that much influence over our country's political process, nothing is going to convince you.
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Old 12-12-2016, 04:11 PM
 
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I think our leaders are worried about something and are using Russia as an excuse to make sure Trump does not take office.


I have never seen leaders in my country fight this hard to usurp the Democratic process.
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Old 12-12-2016, 04:22 PM
 
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Just how was the country or election hacked ? That is a nonsensical statement as meaningless as the rabbit hole it pops out of.

They can investigate whatever they want but to have any credibility they need to share the evidence with the public and a road map that leads to the conclusion they draw. How does something that has no conclusive evidence lead to a definite conclusion. Then we have the word intent again. Even with the overwhelming evidence the FBI had they couldn't prove intent.

This is nothing but politics. An attempt to marginalize and delegitimize Trump's victory by the butt hurt on the left and the right along with media that will spin it endlessly which is in there interest but not the public interest.
Since the FBI and CIA both have evidence, then it makes sense to properly investigate this. Since it is a Republican Congress, I don't think you can consider it to be nothing but politics if they are in charge of the investigation. Either way, it makes sense to want to get to the bottom of this and everyone who was going on about Hillary's emails and Benghazi should agree.
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Old 12-12-2016, 04:23 PM
 
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So you don't care about National Security now?
What does a hack, that not even proven, of a private server have to do with National Security?
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Old 12-12-2016, 04:23 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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There you go. The electoral college is theoretically the last refuge for preserving our democratic process. There's no reason they shouldn't be fully informed.
That isn't the main reason we have the E.C., and they have no right to what is probably classified information. The "last refuge" argument does not apply here, because the public is well informed, we know who Trump is, we have the means of communication today that was never envisioned as possible when the Constitution was written.

Because some do not like Trump is not a reason for the E.C. to overturn the vote of the people. I can guarantee you that if they attempt it, and were to succeed, we would be facing something we haven't seen since the civil war, and I don't think anyone wants that.

There is zero evidence that Russia or any other foreing country influenced the election. There is zero evidence that voting machines were hacked (which isn't possible).

This is just an attempt by the Hillary campaign to overturn the election. It is a coup. Proves once again how evil this woman is, and the Democrat party.
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Old 12-12-2016, 04:24 PM
 
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The Russians know just as much about the RNC/Republicans, and they're reportedly using it to blackmail them. If you're not concerned about another country holding that much influence over our country's political process, nothing is going to convince you.
How silly. This is nothing but rambling hearsay.
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Old 12-12-2016, 04:25 PM
 
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What does a hack, that not even proven, of a private server have to do with National Security?
This has more to do with National Security than a private server. It makes sense to fully investigate this to see how big it actually is.
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Old 12-12-2016, 04:26 PM
 
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And you want an investigation on it? Correct? We both should agree that an investigation is needed regardless of who is at fault for this hack.
False question.

Private servers get hacked all the time. Chalk it up to the incompetence of those chosen to run them. Doesn't mean "American Security" as you put it, is at risk at all.
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Old 12-12-2016, 04:27 PM
 
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Since the FBI and CIA both have evidence,....
Nope. Neither organization has said they have any evidence.
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