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Old 12-17-2016, 03:33 PM
 
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On one side you have the winning side poo poo'ing all of the reports about potential, and I stress potential, election issues from Russian hacks and Putin's knowledge to the crosscheck where voters kicked off the polls (Michigan for example) etc.

On the other side you have the losing side whining about blatant misjustice to fraud to fixed, rigged etc.

In my mind, all I can say is there is enough noise for me to at least question the results. But until there is hard concrete evidence as opposed to accusations and reports of look likes and maybes, then we should continue to move forward. The only thing I laugh about is Trump was the one whining and screaming about voter fraud long before he got elected, and now once in of course not a peep.
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Old 12-17-2016, 03:35 PM
 
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Neither one of the candidates were any good. It was a disgrace to this country.
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Old 12-17-2016, 03:36 PM
 
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In my mind, all I can say is there is enough noise for me to at least question the results....
In other words you are yet another Hillary supporter who doesn't accept the outcome of the election.
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Old 12-17-2016, 03:43 PM
 
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We'll never know the truth about the 2012 election. There were stories of voter fraud occurring in many states yet Obama's corrupt DOJ and the MSM ignored them all. They would have done the exact same thing this time around if Trump was a democrat.
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Old 12-17-2016, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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There is a chance that the truth will come out. We won't get a congressional investigation, of course, but Trump has made enemies of the media and the CIA. One or the other or both will get to the bottom of his Russian dealings and it will be leaked.
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Old 12-17-2016, 03:45 PM
 
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In other words you are yet another Hillary supporter who doesn't accept the outcome of the election.
So so wrong, but believe what you will.
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Old 12-17-2016, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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We'll never know the truth about the 2012 election. There were stories of voter fraud occurring in many states yet Obama's corrupt DOJ and the MSM ignored them all. They would have done the exact same thing this time around if Trump was a democrat.
In 2012, pre-election polling, exit polling, the electoral margin and the popular margin all pointed to an Obama victory. In 2016, only one of them pointed to a Trump victory and it was by the slimmest of margins imaginable. With certain Russian meddling, Trump's narrow electoral college win will always be suspect and his legitimacy as president will be questioned.
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Old 12-17-2016, 04:00 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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There is a chance that the truth will come out. We won't get a congressional investigation, of course, but Trump has made enemies of the media and the CIA. One or the other or both will get to the bottom of his Russian dealings and it will be leaked.
Even when they have to fabricate it, right?

Because that's pretty much what they are doing now.
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Old 12-17-2016, 04:02 PM
 
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In 2012, pre-election polling, exit polling, the electoral margin and the popular margin all pointed to an Obama victory. In 2016, only one of them pointed to a Trump victory and it was by the slimmest of margins imaginable. With certain Russian meddling, Trump's narrow electoral college win will always be suspect and his legitimacy as president will be questioned.
Who cares about polling? Maybe it has run its course. There is no way Russia could have hacked onto the voting machines. That has already been determined with that recount. Time to move on.
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Old 12-17-2016, 04:03 PM
 
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In 2012, pre-election polling, exit polling, the electoral margin and the popular margin all pointed to an Obama victory. In 2016, only one of them pointed to a Trump victory and it was by the slimmest of margins imaginable. With certain Russian meddling, Trump's narrow electoral college win will always be suspect and his legitimacy as president will be questioned.
Maybe it will "be questioned by you".

Don't you get it? All those polls that the MSM were putting out were fake. All those stories and supposed analysis that said Hillary was going to win the electoral votes by a wide margin were fake. All those stories and supposed polls that Hillary will take the rust belt were all lies.

I'm still trying to figure out how "Russian meddling" somehow rigged the election

There was no way to hack into voting machines. Assange repeatedly said that it wasn't the Russians who hacked into the DNC and Podesta's email account. In fact, some stories say it was a DNC insider who did it.

What I'm seeing is the left still not coming to terms that Hillary lost and are now grasping at straws.

Answer this --- If all the polling in 2012 showed an Obama victory by a wide margin, then why were his supporters out there committing voter fraud. Why bother?
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