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Old 12-21-2016, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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No precinct had over 12 more votes than people checking into vote; the average was only 3 votes over. It's likely it was a error or a miscalculation because there was also 300 votes that were undercounted.

Well just have to wait, but city of Detroit really needs to get their act together.
If it were truly accidental then it wouldn't move the needle so far for just one side.

The many inaccuracies found in Wisconsin is also quite embarrassing for Wisconsin -- though that state showed the random non-partisan errors that you'd expect with legitimate (rather than deliberate) mistakes.

At minimum, Detroit needs much greater oversight and regulation to ensure the accuracy of their vote.
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Old 12-21-2016, 06:57 AM
 
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Do you not see the real issue? How come this "error" doesn't occur in the Michigan counties that voted for Trump?
This "error" did occur in other Michigan counties. Detroit is just so large that the error was magnified.
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Old 12-21-2016, 07:09 AM
 
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Allow me to interject some actual facts regarding this topic in the thread. If you're not into facts, please continue with the next post (if there is one).

The vast Democratic voter conspiracy in Detroit of 782 extra votes was about 0.3% of the total vote cast in all Detroit voting precincts. There are 662 precincts in Detroit. The majority of extra votes were by about 3 extra votes per precinct. If one were to call this 'wide spread voter fraud', then that person would be engaging in wild hyperbole.

Detroit, like all Michigan voting precincts, has state-supplied optical scanner voting machines. The ones in Detroit are over 10 years old, and a great number of these machines broke down during the voting, causing problems with tabulating the votes. Additionally, the people manning the polling precincts were mostly retired people (average age of 68) who had to work over 15 hours on November 8th; most probably, discrepancies could be attributed to fatigue on the part of the overworked precinct workers. One good thing that's come out of this recount is that the Republican controlled state government has finally agreed to replace the aging and broken voting machines in Detroit.
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Fallacious argument.
No, simply the facts. Facts are stubborn things.

The only people claiming voter fraud are those who desperately want there to be voter fraud.

If you wish to see a fallacious argument, I refer you to the original post in this thread.

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Election can be won by just 1 vote.
Yes, quite true. But it didn't occur here.
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Old 12-21-2016, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Hey what happened to the Voter fraud in NC. Where was it. The GOP Governor was thrown out on his ear. He tried with all his might to find that fraud and it was never there.


No this proves only one thing.
The GOP wants to spend no money on anything to improve results. See the Flint water crisis to find that out.

The Michigan GOP has stolen about 150 million from people trying to get their UE by using a system that needs repair. They of course will be sued by the thousands and will be spending more on the defense of the broken system then the cost of repair.
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Old 12-21-2016, 07:15 AM
 
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No, simply the facts.
Fallicious argument. You wish to suggest the voter fraud in Detroit is OK. Hence you create a pointless statistic as strawman.

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Yes, quite true. But it didn't occur here.
Indeed. But given your logic, the fraud represents 78100% more than what it takes to win election.
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Old 12-21-2016, 07:16 AM
 
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Hey what happened to the Voter fraud in NC.
This topic is about Detroit. It's located in Michigan, not North Carolina.
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Old 12-21-2016, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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This topic is about Detroit. It's located in Michigan, not North Carolina.
Thanks.
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:10 AM
 
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Fallicious argument. You wish to suggest the voter fraud in Detroit is OK. Hence you create a pointless statistic as strawman.

Indeed. But given your logic, the fraud represents 78100% more than what it takes to win election.
I'm pretty certain at this point you're just trolling me.

I'm also pretty certain that you don't know the definition of 'fallicious' or 'strawman', especially since you misspelled them.

The facts remain. The discrepancies found in the Detroit voting precincts were so small that they didn't affect the election and have been attributed by the state director of elections to precinct workers who were overwhelmed by their task and to old and defective voting machines provided by the state government.

The only people seeing voter fraud are those who desperately want to see voter fraud.
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:25 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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According to Beverly Harris(Liberal Democrat) at BlackBoxVoting.org, 5 entire states had more votes cast than voters registered to vote. They all went to Hillary in narrow margins.

http://blackboxvoting.org/
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:02 AM
 
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According to the NYT and dumbed-down liberals, even when there's voter fraud.....there isn't any.
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