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I have never seen or heard an argument in favor of no voter ID requirements that make any sense at all. Why is this so hard for libs to understand? People want to vote, they get an government ID card. What do these same people do when they are asked to show ID when using their credit cards or cashing a check. What about when they go into a store to buy a 6 pk of beer, the checker asks for ID? come on libs, face it, there is no excuse for not producing proof if you want to vote.
Bases without evidence only because Twitter boy says so doesn't actually means its true those are alternative facts.
One of the primary issues here is you cannot identify voter fraud if you are not positively identifying the voter and that is for all forms of voting.
What I can tell you is there is plenty of indications there is significant issues. For example a TV station in a small county in Florida compared jury questionnaires to the voter rolls and found over a hundred individuals that were registered to vote but had checked on the jury form they not a citizen. Some of them had voted , even multiple times. When you have 500 votes that determined the outcome of a presidential election I would say that's a big problem.
Probably the greatest example of the potential for voter fraud I have seen is an investigation carried out in NYC. 62 state investigators walked into polling places and 60 of them successfully voted using the names of people that were ineligible to vote. People that had moved, felons and....... dead people. About 10 of them voted using names of people that were significantly older than themselves.
The integrity of the voting sytem should be paramount and one of the things we need to do to insure that integrity is positively identify the voter.
There is no significant illegal voting. There have been studies and investigations and lawsuits. No legitimate study or investigation has concluded any significant illegal voting.
This statement is the equivalent of telling a cop they cannot watch a stop sign for people going through it and then declaring no one went through the stop sign because no tickets were issued.
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The "study" he is referring to shows that rolls have people still registered who have moved or died.
I don't know what study was being cited but Pew did one a few years ago.
Approximately 24 million—one of every eight—voter registrations in the United States are no longer valid or are significantly inaccurate.
More than 1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters.
Approximately 2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.
Obliviously most of these registration are not fraudulent but to suggest none of them are being used to commit fraud is absurd. What is important is it illustrates the enormous potential for fraud.
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The reality is that 3 million more people voted for Hillary Clinton...a record for a loser of the election. And 3 million people protested his inauguration...an historical record.
If the rules change so does the campaign and vote totals. Trumps last two stops were in PA and Wisconsin. That stop in PA was near me and it was critical area for him to win PA, it's not a large metropolitan area. If you have an election based on total votes those stops do not occur and both candidates have a completely different campaign.
In addition to that if every vote counts you are going to have much higher totals for Republicans in places like California. The same thing can be said about states where Hillary is the foregone loser.
The same jerk that bull-****ted about sending his private investigators to Hawaii knowing that no one would follow up and question him about it, has bull-****ted you again...LOL
Voter suppression is alive and thriving in right wing world. The illegal voting nonsense is a ploy to whip the dumbed-down and conspiracy crazies into a frenzy to further this voter suppression agenda.
Not only do illegals vote, but so do dead people. Voter ID laws terrify liberals because it would mean that illegals and dead people will no longer be able to vote. Rather than admit that this is the reason they hate voter ID, they claim that having to show ID is a big burden for minorities---which is insulting to minorities. I know that my 91 year old Dad and his 88 year old sister (who are both Hispanic) have more than one form of valid ID. They would be insulted if someone assumed that due to them being elderly and minority meant that they lack IDs.
Yeah because you know democrats are conniving enough to stack millions of fake votes but somehow dumb enough to forget to add thousands in swing states that tipped the election ???
How does requiring an ID to vote suppress minority and/or poor votes? You think minorities are too stupid to find the DMV?
Does it suppress minority/poor turnout when they have to show an ID for....
welfare?
alcohol?
food stamps?
medical insurance?
drive a car?
cigarettes?
phones?
section 8 housing?
Rent a house/apt?
medicaid?
social security?
unemployment?
take an airplane?
get married?
get a prescription filled?
open a bank account?
Democrats only oppose voter ID laws because it would stop all the games they play with absentee ballots, bussing people around, and registering illegal immigrants to vote.
How can you stop voter fraud when you get called racist and blocked from trying to implement laws that prevent it?
Bright blue states have tons of fake votes because tons of illegals live there. The buses and absentee ballot shenanigans takes place in the swing states mostly.....smart one.
I have never seen or heard an argument in favor of no voter ID requirements that make any sense at all. Why is this so hard for libs to understand? People want to vote, they get an government ID card. What do these same people do when they are asked to show ID when using their credit cards or cashing a check. What about when they go into a store to buy a 6 pk of beer, the checker asks for ID? come on libs, face it, there is no excuse for not producing proof if you want to vote.
"All the networks allow a merchant to ask for identification. MasterCard and Visa, however, explicitly prohibit retailers from requiring an ID to accept a properly signed card. "They can ask for that ID, but you can refuse to show the ID and they still must accept the card," says Paul Stephens, director of policy and advocacy at the Privacy Rights Clearinghouse, a nonprofit that advocates for consumer privacy rights." Can retailers ask for ID with your credit card?
Nobody has proof because you need to positively identify the voter.
Where illegals or legal but ineligible voters are voting under their own name is one area that should not be difficult to determine. However, that requires cooperation of the Federal government and the state.
Florida had a very difficult time accessing the SAVE database under the Obama administration and had to take them to court to get it. They have limited access now for specific queries for individuals but you are handicapping what is so great about using database. That may change under the Trump administration but you will still have issues with states like California that may refuse to actually use these tools....
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