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Old 03-27-2017, 04:56 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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I agree. Biden was the rightful heir to Obama's legacy, NOT Hillary.

Biden wouldn't have even had to distance himself from Obama. He would have simply had to highlight Obama's accomplishments.
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Old 03-27-2017, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Woulda, coulda, shoulda - but didn't. Sure he probably would have beaten Trump, maybe. Dealing with the death of his son probably wouldn't have made him the best candidate at the time, better than Hillary by miles of course.
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Old 03-27-2017, 06:16 PM
 
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Philly and Detroit stayed Democrat, fwiw. It was the rural areas which didn't. And Joe's from Scranton; he knows how to talk to them.
He very well might have been able to. It wasn't that either place went (R), they didn't but people stayed home.
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Old 03-27-2017, 06:18 PM
 
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Would Biden have beaten Bernie in the primary?
Starting from an even clean slate? Good question. If they had come out and said "Biden has most of the super delegates already locked up so don't bother" like the DNC did with Hillary? I don't know.
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Old 03-27-2017, 06:38 PM
 
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Biden would have been Obama the 2nd. When over 70% of Americans feel the country is going in the wrong direction, it's hard to imagine someone on the same track as Obama would have won. People wanted change - hence Bernie's and Trump's popularity.
They did, but by the same token JB was fit for Rust Belt as he does not look down on the working class, unlike HRC.

But unless he got a sex change operation or could somehow be a different first demographically, the "we must have a first _____" Dems would ignore him.
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Old 03-28-2017, 12:25 PM
 
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Joe would have had the same problem as Hillary did ..... do you folks want 4 more years of BO? That's what you'll get if you elect Joe.
Obama left office with a 59% approval rating. Obviously not everyone hated him.

Joe would have won easily, even with the same turnout, because there were many people who voted for Trump or Gary Johnson just because they didn't want Hillary. Hillary was a flawed, corrupt candidate with a lot of baggage. As close as the election was in the Rust Belt, I believe Biden would have held Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin and therefore he would currently be our President.
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Old 03-28-2017, 02:40 PM
 
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Obama left office with a 59% approval rating. Obviously not everyone hated him.

Joe would have won easily, even with the same turnout, because there were many people who voted for Trump or Gary Johnson just because they didn't want Hillary. Hillary was a flawed, corrupt candidate with a lot of baggage. As close as the election was in the Rust Belt, I believe Biden would have held Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin and therefore he would currently be our President.

You think? But what about the Russian hacking? It might not have changed anything.
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Old 03-28-2017, 06:25 PM
 
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You think? But what about the Russian hacking? It might not have changed anything.
I don't believe Russian hacking influenced the election itself. I think Russian interference was more targeted at Hillary's campaign. The Wikileaks releases were timed so perfectly to benefit Trump.
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Old 03-28-2017, 10:25 PM
 
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I don't believe Russian hacking influenced the election itself. I think Russian interference was more targeted at Hillary's campaign. The Wikileaks releases were timed so perfectly to benefit Trump.



Yes that's the latest excuse libs are using yes
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Old 03-28-2017, 11:03 PM
 
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Proof positive that old Joe is just a senile old drunken pervert, who is completely clueless. The reason he didn't run is because he knew he had no chance of winning. Using his deceased son as an excuse was inexcusable.
Another reason he didn't run was because the party wouldn't allow it, crooked hillary was the choice...
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