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Old 04-30-2017, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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Sanders and Clinton were in a race to see who could give away America the fastest to everyone who didn't want to work. They have learned nothing, thats a good thing.

The figgered out HOW they lost the election, not why.
It was a health problem, voters got sick of them.
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Old 04-30-2017, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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The short scoop on why democrats lost the big election in November of 2016 was not because of evil Russians but internal research determined that democrats didn't get enough votes. Wow. 😱

Actually the article blamed the disgruntled democrat base for not coming to Hillary's defense but seriously? It took 6 months to figure out more votes were needed to win? Where is captain obvious.

Democrats say they now know exactly why Clinton lost
Let me remind the OP that HRC got 3 million more votes than Trump. HRC lost because she lost four states narrowly and because "winning" is decided by the electoral college, Trump won.
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Old 04-30-2017, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Sanders and Clinton were in a race to see who could give away America the fastest to everyone who didn't want to work. They have learned nothing, thats (sic) a good thing.

The figgered out HOW they lost the election, not why.
It was a health problem, voters got sick of them.
Sorry, that's nonsense. Trump promised unemployed coal miners that he'd get their high paying jobs back and promised factory workers that have had their jobs replaced by automation, that he'd get their jobs back too.

It wasn't Clinton or Sanders saying, that they'd provide health care that was "great health care for a fraction of the price."
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Old 05-01-2017, 02:48 AM
 
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Sorry, that's nonsense. Trump promised unemployed coal miners that he'd get their high paying jobs back and promised factory workers that have had their jobs replaced by automation, that he'd get their jobs back too.
He promised and ended Obama and HRC's War on Coal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksIXqxpQNt0


Those people are best served by maintaining their jobs in the coal industry as long as possible, by eliminating Obama's industry killing regulations on them.
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Old 05-01-2017, 02:53 AM
 
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Hopefully in 2012 it wasn't a vote for Obama. He had just liked about Beghanzi and still somehow weaseled his way back in.
That's what happens when you are well spoken and clean.
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Old 05-01-2017, 02:55 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Trump won because people agree with his stances on issues like actually enforcing the border, squashing this climate change nonsense, saying no to globalism, keeping jobs here, etc. All Hillary did was act like a PC scold with her annoying identity politics. People are tired of cookie cutter politicians.
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Old 05-01-2017, 02:56 AM
 
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Trump won because people agree with his stances on issues like actually enforcing the border, squashing this climate change nonsense, saying no to globalism, keeping jobs here, etc. All Hillary did was act like a PC scold with her annoying identity politics. People are tired of cookie cutter politicians.
Great post.
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Old 05-01-2017, 03:26 AM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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and the people in the Rust Belt vote, too.
People have ignored the industrial Midwest for a generation now. Headlines of layoffs, economic ruin and misery have poured out of places like Milwaukee, Gary, Detroit and Akron for many years. All this time they have been ignored or even mocked and ridiculed for thier misery and suffering. Some of the problems up there are of the people of those states own making, unions, high taxes and regulation are part of what happened there and that is indeed thier own fault. However an equal fault is in the reckless trade agreements signed by our government. Wisconsin, Michigan, Indiana and Ohio delivered Trump the White House. Those people are a generation into economic misery, thier cities are in some cases literally ruins(Detroit) some have unsafe water, and much of the infrastructure is crumbling. Drive through lower Michigan, Ohio and northern Indiana and you will see why they are angry. You need a Prozac after driving through it but millions of Americans actually have to live with those conditions and those conditions were partially caused by the mainstream political leaders in Washington. I doubt any ignores them for a while after this, the red/blue balance has shifted because of them. If trump has any success in bringing some of those jobs back to Mi, Oh, Wi etc those states will be as red as a southern state for the next 50 years.
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Old 05-01-2017, 04:45 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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The Democrats lost because:

"I will lower your wages by making you compete with cheap third-world labor, while tripling your energy costs with alternative energy boondoggles" is not an appealing campaign platform.
For most of my life I was a staunch Democrat. I never even thought about voting for a Republican. The reason I had for that was that only the Democrats stood for the little guy; the Republicans stood for big business and the rich.

The Democrats wised up over the years. They found out that the little guy had little money and did not contribute like their wealthy friends. All the little guy ever wanted was a secure job and a chance to support themselves and family. For many years the Democrats pulled the wool over the eyes of their true base as they secretly wrote laws and policies that favored their rich friends. Thanks, especially to this last election; they are now 'exposed' for who they truly are.

I am not letting the Republicans off the hook. Many of them were and still are supporters of the rich. This last election was not a vote for Republicans; it was a vote for change and that meant in both Parties. So far the biggest challenge to this change has come from the Republicans that think we voted for them.
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Old 05-01-2017, 05:48 AM
 
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Hillary got 3 million more votes than Trump. You might want to ask Captain Obvious for advice.
And most of those were from Ca. What a shocker!

Which is why we do NOT elect by "popular" vote.
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