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Old 03-10-2008, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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You can believe this: If something untoward had shown up, we'd have heard about it loud and clear.
Doesn't Cheney have a blind trust too? And for that matter, woudn't Hillary???
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Old 03-10-2008, 10:05 PM
 
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I for one think it depends on the actual first lady. So being a first lady doesn't automatically equate to political experience. Some first ladies choose to take on more of a social role. Some choose to focus on charity work. Others are a little more active in politics. Hillary according to most was active and was basically more or less a cabinet member. So you do have to give her an edge. I just wouldn't exagerrate it, or make it seem like a huge advantage. I would classify her as more experienced than Obama, but not way more experienced.
Active maybe -- but did she accomplish much of anything while First Lady?

Some First Ladies become linked to a particular cause, highway beautification, literacy -- but Hillary isn't really remembered for much of anything but personal ambition, her own power-lust.
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Old 03-10-2008, 10:15 PM
 
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What I DON'T GET is why you people don't simply do a Google search if you REALLY want to read about Hillary's experience and accomplishments. She started working on federal domestic issues in 1970 and was one of only two female lawyers who worked for the House Judiciary Committee in 1974 on the Nixon impeachment.

If no one knows what she accomplished, then she obviously didn't accomplish too much for all her years and political connections.

It really doesn't matter what she "worked on" if she never got anything done. Her health care plan was a flop because Hillary doesn't know how to pull a team together.

She supposedly did something for children -- but children today are not better off than before. Now child looks at Hillary as the one who got them something they wouldn't already have.

Hillary supporters are going on sheer emotion. They see Hillary as some sad figure who wants to be president very badly and whose entire life's ambition was that -- but they can't spell out why she should have. That's why when Hillary cries, they get all the more supportive of her.
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Old 03-10-2008, 10:54 PM
 
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What I DON'T GET is why you people don't simply do a Google search if you REALLY want to read about Hillary's experience and accomplishments. She started working on federal domestic issues in 1970 and was one of only two female lawyers who worked for the House Judiciary Committee in 1974 on the Nixon impeachment.

The list of accomplishments grows from there and you expect US to summarize what amounts to 38 years of experience for you? READ, people. Don't expect others to spoonfeed you all of the time. It's pathetic, too, that you're basically admitting that you did NO RESEARCH on the candidates before making your decision to support one.
Oh, the irony!
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:13 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Over the last 30 years Hillary has tremendous exceptional experience that in all probability nobody in the United States of America could ever possibly match.

She is married to Bill Clinton.

For over the last 35 years, Hillary has worked on a 24-hour basis with Bill. Day in day out Hillary and Bill have managed to subvert and perhaps even pervert American politics, which every area they have dabbled.

Together as a team, which we see more of it each and every day now Hillery and Bill have managed to create a tremendous aura of invincibility through as it is becoming apparent more and more deception ploy misquotes doubletalk outright lying in various fear tactics and completely unethical skills that has managed to cast him in the spotlight over and over again throughout the list 35 years.

Mr. Obama is simply sidestepping all the dirty politics in which the Clintons are the masters.

So yes Hillary Clinton does have a tremendous edge over Mr. Obama. One however, that United States of America can finally do without!
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:58 PM
 
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Over the last 30 years Hillary has tremendous exceptional experience that in all probability nobody in the United States of America could ever possibly match.

She is married to Bill Clinton.

For over the last 35 years, Hillary has worked on a 24-hour basis with Bill. Day in day out Hillary and Bill have managed to subvert and perhaps even pervert American politics, which every area they have dabbled.

Together as a team, which we see more of it each and every day now Hillery and Bill have managed to create a tremendous aura of invincibility through as it is becoming apparent more and more deception ploy misquotes doubletalk outright lying in various fear tactics and completely unethical skills that has managed to cast him in the spotlight over and over again throughout the list 35 years.

Mr. Obama is simply sidestepping all the dirty politics in which the Clintons are the masters.

So yes Hillary Clinton does have a tremendous edge over Mr. Obama. One however, that United States of America can finally do without!
Right on!
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I listed her accomplishments on a huge post on another thread, entitled something like Why Do Married Women Hate Hillary. Please see post #60 on that thread and quit with the stupid comments saying that Hillary has no experience.

Perhaps some of you find well-educated women with stellar resumes emasculating? Not our problem -- get over it.
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:33 AM
 
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She has experience, and is qualified to be the president.

However, many are qualified. Gore was more qualified, as an actual VP during the same time. All of Bill Clinton's cabinet should be more qualified. Kerry was more qualified. That won't win you any elections.

Only a few are able to earn the title of presidential candidate for a major party, and Hillary isn't one of them. The most important things she claims as experience -- those things were not earned by her IMO. She didn't get elected to first lady. She never would have been NY senator without the Clinton name. She wouldn't have $5M to lend herself, and she wouldn't even be in the race much less STILL in it.

You cannot deny it smacks of entitlement; it seems many people will always think she is "owed" this presidency, and will equate serendipity and stoicness to experience and being able to handle a crisis. It's a shame.
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:57 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Obama apparently thinks he is entitled to the presidency because he's charismatic, youngish, and black. Yep, I'm saying it. John Edwards had about the same amount of experience as Obama but better ideas and his presidential bids never got off the ground. Obama has carefully packaged himself so that wouldn't happen to him. If he were older with more experience, he wouldn't be so marketable and that's the reason he's running now. It's a gimmick.
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Old 03-11-2008, 01:00 AM
 
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More ironical statements from teatime.
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