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Old 03-15-2008, 05:35 PM
Location: Washington state
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In a boost for Obama, House Speaker Pelosi said it would be damaging to the Democratic party for the convention to overturn the will of the people and that the pledged delegate winner should be the nominee. Now isn't this what we Obama supporters have been saying all along?
"If the votes of the superdelegates overturn what's happened in the elections, it would be harmful to the Democratic party," Pelosi said in an interview taped Friday for broadcast Sunday on ABC's "This Week."
The California Democrat did not mention either Obama or his rival, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, by name. But her remarks seemed to suggest she was prepared to cast her ballot at the convention in favor of the candidate who emerges from the primary season with the most pledged delegates.
Obama leads Clinton by 142 pledged delegates — those delegates picked in nomination contests to date, in The Associated Press' count.
Barring an unlikely string of landslide victories by the former first lady in the remaining states, he will end the primary season with a delegate lead, but short of the 2025 needed to win the nomination.
That gives the balance of power to the so-called superdelegates, prominent Democrats who are automatically entitled to attend the convention because of their status as members of Congress or other leaders. Clinton leads Obama for their support in the AP count, 249-213.
Pelosi's comments could influence other House Democrats who are neutral in the presidential race and will attend the convention as superdelegates.
In her interview, Pelosi also said that even if one candidate winds up with a larger share of the popular vote than the delegate leader, the candidate who has more delegates should prevail.

"It's a delegate race," she said. "The way the system works is that the delegates choose the nominee."
Pelosi's delegate stance boosts Obama - Yahoo! News (broken link)
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Old 03-15-2008, 07:56 PM
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That is not about the super delegates that may decide;not the pledged delegates. Obama suppoters say that the populae vote winner should win also. Just as they said that Bush stole the elction by winning the electoral clooege.Mo matter what happens someone is going to say "they" stole the party nomination;its that symple at this point.It is just crazy that there is a system that is worse than the syatem in general election that the party complained about. I say get rid of the super delegates period.
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Old 03-15-2008, 10:52 PM
Location: San Antonio North
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Right wouldn't the will of the people include Florida and Michigan?
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Old 03-16-2008, 12:43 AM
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MI and FL means +30 for HillBilly NOt enough to take the lead.....

HillBilly loses in state count, popular vote, and pledged delegates !!!

whats her case again??
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Old 03-16-2008, 01:25 AM
Location: SF Bay Area
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Florida and MI both broke the rules and shouldn't be counted, especially when Obama will pick up enough delegates and popular votes to maintain his advantage. Really a moot point now.

Pelosi expresses the increasing sentiment that a long drawn out race is unnecessary. People are realizing that it's time to close ranks around the frontrunner, the candidate who best captures the will of the people who are starving for change. By my calculations, if Obama gets more than 40% of the PA vote, it will be quite evident that Clinton's chances of overtaking Obama (without superdelegate pity support going against the will of the people) will be nil.

This is when I suspect that the superdelegates will start supporting Obama to bring this matter to a close. In fact, recognizing that superdelegates are preparing to favor Obama now, Hillary has begun focusing on the superdelegates instead of the PA voters. Read that story today on MSNBC.
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