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"When you try to sow the seeds of doubt in people's minds about the legitimacy of our election, that undermines our democracy" - barack Obama, October 2016
is Hillary undermining our democracy?
Demonic rats routinely set a new high bar in hypocrisy.
At least the voters recognize it and have entrusted the White House, Congress, Senate, Supreme Court, state legislatures and state governors almost exclusive power to Republicans.
I don't think we can really point to any single reason why she lost. Fake news was just one of the ingredients in the soup.
I can, her dishonesty above all else. She has been lying about large and small things since the days of her being involved in politics when Bill Clinton was Governor of AK. She saw him as her ticket to success, and did everything she could to protect that potential future. Now I will grant as a wife, she did what many women do, that being cover for their man.
But with Hillary it went well beyond that, in her efforts to lie about his infidelities, and then try to ruin the women when he had the "bimbo eruptions".
To me, that was small potatoes, though I imagine it was significant to the women she tried to destroy.
Still it had little effect on the country.
She had some issues as First Lady, and even as Senator, but nothing earth shattering. Then she ran for potus in 2008 and tried to smear Obama when he posed a threat to her. Don't forget she and/or her surrogates were the first ones to bring up his dirty laundry, and even the birther accusations.
Still, had she won the (D) nomination in 2008, she again would not have lied to the point of harming the country.
However once Obama paid her off by giving her the SoS to further her ambitions for a run in 2016, that is where her constant dishonesty was her undoing. Whether it be her thinking she was above the law by having her own private server, staying connected to her favorite hatchet man in Sidney Blumenthal despite Obama's orders to sever ties.
Her incompetence supporting the so called "Arab Spring", toppling Hosni in Egypt, or Murmar in Libya, the "Russian reset" and all sorts of other failures were on display for people to see. Then when she obviously lied about the private server, not destroying emails and government information, classified documents, Benghazi, sniper fire, etc., etc., etc. people knew she was dishonest when it really counted.
So despite her many flaws, the biggest issue for many voters was her lack of honesty/integrity.
no. Russia is, and some people are falling for it.
do you guys have any real proof of this, or are you just pushing the losers mantra of we lost because of outside influences?
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Originally Posted by Valhallian
I don't think we can really point to any single reason why she lost. Fake news was just one of the ingredients in the soup.
you are right, there are a number of reason why hillary lost;
1: she was a horrible candidate
2: she had no energy in her campaign, to the point where late in the campaign she had to bride people to show up at her rallies with stars like beyonce and others to do pre rally shows
3: she had no message other than "vote for me because trump is a jackass"
4: she refused to campaign in borderline states like michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, and iowa. the democrat parties in those states BEGGED her to come campaign, and she wouldnt go, arrogantly thinking she had those states sewn up.
5: her campaign had no positive message at all, all she did was sling mud at trump. she gave plenty of reasons not to vote for trump, but virtually none to vote for her.
do you guys have any real proof of this, or are you just pushing the losers mantra of we lost because of outside influences?
you are right, there are a number of reason why hillary lost;
1: she was a horrible candidate
2: she had no energy in her campaign, to the point where late in the campaign she had to bride people to show up at her rallies with stars like beyonce and others to do pre rally shows
3: she had no message other than "vote for me because trump is a jackass"
4: she refused to campaign in borderline states like michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, and iowa. the democrat parties in those states BEGGED her to come campaign, and she wouldnt go, arrogantly thinking she had those states sewn up.
5: her campaign had no positive message at all, all she did was sling mud at trump. she gave plenty of reasons not to vote for trump, but virtually none to vote for her.
so yes, there was no one single reason she lost.
I'll also add that despite it being a different party, I believe people truly did not want to see another variant of Bush 1.0 and Bush 2.0 by bringing in Clinton 2.0, not to mention the fact that historically, its very rare for a party to carry 3 consecutive terms.
I'll also add that despite it being a different party, I believe people truly did not want to see another variant of Bush 1.0 and Bush 2.0 by bringing in Clinton 2.0, not to mention the fact that historically, its very rare for a party to carry 3 consecutive terms.
very true, which was why the vast majority of the republican field in the primaries lost to trump and cruz.
"When you try to sow the seeds of doubt in people's minds about the legitimacy of our election, that undermines our democracy" - barack Obama, October 2016
is Hillary undermining our democracy?
Our's is not a democracy. We are a Constitutional Republic. Can we please learn at least that much?
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands ..." Notice it does not say "to the democracy."
"When you try to sow the seeds of doubt in people's minds about the legitimacy of our election, that undermines our democracy" - barack Obama, October 2016
is Hillary undermining our democracy?
The bottom line is Obama is a pathological liar.
Obama never sincerely believed those comments, but he knew that a friendly MSM would repeat them and the sheep in his flock would repeat them...and it was an effective lie to help Hillary and bash Trump.
Some on this message board pointed out that there could be extenuating circumstances and so Trump would be right to not say it was a smooth election until after the election happened, but you saw many of the sheep regurgitate Obama's BS rather than use their own brains.
Now it appears as if Obama was spying on Trump to see if he was colluding with Russia at the same time he was saying it was impossible to have fraud and we must accept the election.
Not sure if you know, but Hillary has recently made statements that the election was possibly illegitimate - the exact thing that Obama and Hillary said would be unpatriotic less than a year ago.
Use your brain for a change, don't just do and think what the shepherds tell you to.
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