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Old 03-19-2008, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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Yup I said it. That's the way I feel about it. I think it is being way overblown, and what I'm seeing is that a lot of people that were unsure or still sort of uncomfortable about Obama are now latching on to this as a way to justify not liking him and therefore not voting for him.
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:10 AM
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I agree, it seems that the people who are making the biggest deal about this were never going to vote for him anyway.
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:11 AM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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What about those who were gung-ho 100% FOR Obama, and are now disillusioned? Were they also looking for an excuse or easy out? I have noticed quite a few posters who were avid supporters, but are supporters no more.
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:15 AM
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I do not necessarily trust the stated intentions of anonymous posters on Internet talk-boards and take all opinions stated on this thread with a grain of salt. There are a lot of people with their own duplicitous agendas and I haven't the time nor inclination to discern or definitively state who is who.
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:15 AM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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I can only cite one example: my wife's grandmother, a die hard Democrat, Jewish descent, was gung ho for Obama before hearing about the Wright controversy, and now is switching her alligeance to Hillary Clinton. She said that if the brokered convention results in Obama's nomination, she will sit out the election, rather than vote for her.
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:28 AM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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I do not necessarily trust the stated intentions of anonymous posters on Internet talk-boards and take all opinions stated on this thread with a grain of salt. There are a lot of people with their own duplicitous agendas and I haven't the time nor inclination to discern or definitively state who is who.
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I agree, it seems that the people who are making the biggest deal about this were never going to vote for him anyway.
You were quite comfortable jumping to the fairly difinitive conclusion you posted regarding other posters' intentions, and then you turn around and say that you don't trust those same posters' opinions and take them with a grain of salt. So which is it? You can't have it both ways.
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:29 AM
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As long as we are sharing anecdotal stories, my sister was a registered republican up until this last election cycle and is now a precinct captain campaigning for Obama while trying to go to graduate school. The Wright controversy meant nothing to her and did not sway her opinions of the man one iota.
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:33 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Yup I said it. That's the way I feel about it. I think it is being way overblown, and what I'm seeing is that a lot of people that were unsure or still sort of uncomfortable about Obama are now latching on to this as a way to justify not liking him and therefore not voting for him.

If it is overblown he had a big hand in making it so.

I would've been much more impressed with him if he'd simply said Rev Wright was a friend and he didn't agree with what he'd said.

As it is his speech struck me as just more CYA political BS.
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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I would've been much more impressed with him if he'd simply said Rev Wright was a friend and he didn't agree with what he'd said.
Maybe I saw a different speech, I don't think so, but that's pretty much what he said.
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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If it is overblown he had a big hand in making it so.

I would've been much more impressed with him if he'd simply said Rev Wright was a friend and he didn't agree with what he'd said.

As it is his speech struck me as just more CYA political BS.
If one were to vastly oversimplify the speech, that's what he said. If you think that speech was just more typical CYA political BS, I don't know what type of politics you have been following. I can't think of another politician to respond so honestly and intelligently to a situation in recent memory.
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