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Old 12-29-2017, 09:11 AM
 
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Roy Moore's defeat was good for the Republican Party. President Trump breathed a sigh of relief when he lost and immediately called and congratulated the winner Doug Jones.

We lost a seat. The baggage that would have come with Moore having that seat was not worth it and Moore is gone. I was very pleased when he lost the election.
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Old 12-29-2017, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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A conservative claiming that "libs" don't understand much? Now that's rich. We have long since put Hillary behind us, at least the ones I know. It's you guys who seem to continually bring up her and Obama for whatever reason. As far as where this is headed I think you guys see what's coming and are desperately trying to divert attention away from the joke you put in the White House. I don't know a single lib, or independent for that matter, who isn't looking forward to the mid terms and 2020. We're intent on correcting the mistake that was made in 2016.



The issue is Clinton accepted the outcome. It's possible that some of her supporters didn't but what they do is irrelevant to this discussion. Roy Moore is a national embarrassment by dragging this out. You and the poster above are trying desperately to equate Hillary's actions after the election with one of your candidates who's acting like a spoiled child to bring the other side down to his level. Hillary did not act that way after she lost. Of course her supporters would do anything to interfere with Trump. That's no different than what the supporters of a conservative candidate would do if their guy lost. I seem to remember a lot of that going on after Obama beat Romney in 2012.

You guys had all your hopes pinned on Moore winning that election to further cement your claim that the US as a whole is embracing Trump and a far right conservative ideology. The Alabama election smashed those hopes for you. It instead lets us see that even people in the deep red South are rejecting what's going on right now in Washington. They didn't reject it by electing the far right conservative but a centrist Democrat! If you don't see the significance of that then that's your problem.
where did you get the idea we had our hopes pinned on Moore winning? Most of us are not happy he was the candidate. But it is over. As for 2018 and 2020, I guess we are blind as most of us are not worried about the next 2 elections. Will the GOP lose some seats? Of course, it is a known fact that the party in power usually loses seats in off year elections. If you are thinking, the Dems will take over the house, that is stretch. As for 2020, God only knows and maybe he doesn't know at this stage. We have no assurance Trump will even be the nominee and certainly no idea who, of the other side will get the nomination. Right now there is no one that stands out as a natural for the position. If you are basing one election on how people in the far south feel you do need to get your head out of that dark place.
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Old 12-29-2017, 09:33 AM
 
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did I say anywhere they reacted in the same way? Of course I didn't and I have no more respect for him than I do for her, maybe less as a matter of fact. My point, but I know libs can't understand much, is: both are poor losers. He is reacting in one way and she in another, but both are acting like children.
very true. roy moore is acting out like a 5 year old throwing a temper tantrum, where as hillar is acting like a 5 year old that is mad at the world and blaming every one but herself for her problems. both of them need to start acting like an adult.
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Old 12-29-2017, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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I read an article yesterday that Roy Moore, in all the races he's lost, has never conceded defeat in any of them. Not surprised.
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Old 12-29-2017, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Houston
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where did you get the idea we had our hopes pinned on Moore winning? Most of us are not happy he was the candidate. But it is over. As for 2018 and 2020, I guess we are blind as most of us are not worried about the next 2 elections. Will the GOP lose some seats? Of course, it is a known fact that the party in power usually loses seats in off year elections. If you are thinking, the Dems will take over the house, that is stretch. As for 2020, God only knows and maybe he doesn't know at this stage. We have no assurance Trump will even be the nominee and certainly no idea who, of the other side will get the nomination. Right now there is no one that stands out as a natural for the position. If you are basing one election on how people in the far south feel you do need to get your head out of that dark place.
I'm not basing anything on just one race but that one race was significant in terms of the upset and who was responsible. And most importantly, who won and where. I base my opinions on trends. Dems retaking the House may not be as far of a stretch as you were led to believe. But like you say, at the end of the day no one really knows. We'll just have to wait and see. Interesting times ahead for us.
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Old 12-29-2017, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Roy Moore's defeat was good for the Republican Party. President Trump breathed a sigh of relief when he lost and immediately called and congratulated the winner Doug Jones.

We lost a seat. The baggage that would have come with Moore having that seat was not worth it and Moore is gone. I was very pleased when he lost the election.
Wow.

Really?

Then, if what you say is true, WHY did Donald Trump wholeheartedly ENDORSE Roy Moore?

WHY would anyone ENDORSE a candidate just to hope that candidate loses?

Please, please stop making stuff up. Delusions aren’t true.
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Old 12-29-2017, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Roy Moore's defeat was good for the Republican Party. President Trump breathed a sigh of relief when he lost and immediately called and congratulated the winner Doug Jones.

We lost a seat. The baggage that would have come with Moore having that seat was not worth it and Moore is gone. I was very pleased when he lost the election.
If he would have won I have a feeling you'd be rubbing it in the faces of the left on here every chance you got. Those who praise Trump the loudest and say the Dems are "finished" as a party have been unusually quiet since that election. I think you're just trying to make the best out of a bad situation for you and your fellow conservatives.
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Old 12-29-2017, 12:35 PM
 
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Wow.

Really?

Then, if what you say is true, WHY did Donald Trump wholeheartedly ENDORSE Roy Moore?

WHY would anyone ENDORSE a candidate just to hope that candidate loses?

Please, please stop making stuff up. Delusions aren’t true.
actually dash is right, moore losing was good for the republican party. if moore had won the election, he would have been sat in the senate, and then immediately subjected to a senate ethics investigation, and chances are he would have been censured in some manner by the senate, and then would have been a huge load stone around republicans necks in 2018.

as it is now, he is just a sore loser that republicans can easily throw under the bus and dismiss as being of no consequence in 2018.

as for trump, he didnt fully endorse moore, in fact he supported luther strange in the primary, and withheld support for moore until late in the election cycle, though he did say he wanted moore in instead of jones.
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Old 12-29-2017, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Wow.

Really?

Then, if what you say is true, WHY did Donald Trump wholeheartedly ENDORSE Roy Moore?

WHY would anyone ENDORSE a candidate just to hope that candidate loses?

Please, please stop making stuff up. Delusions aren’t true.
though I am not sure I buy what he said, I have heard that theory more than once in the past few weeks and it makes some sense. As for Trump endorsing him, I wouldn't say wholeheartedly but of course he did, he had to stick with the choice like it or not. yes, I know he campaign for him but it was more a rally which he is so good at, than a real campaign push.
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Old 12-29-2017, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Despite first endorsing losing candidate Luther Strange, Trump most certainly and wholeheartedly endorsed Roy Moore. He said it, he tweeted it, he made a robocall recording and he campaigned for him in the Alabama media market.

These are facts, and no spin can change that.
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