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Old 03-28-2018, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Terrific article about the increase in Iraq and Afghanistan veterans running for office this year, many of whom are running, like Conor Lamb in PA and Jason Crow in my congressional district in CO, as Democrats.

I thought it a great counterpoint to the arguments seen regularly here and elsewhere that insist that Democrats hate the military and don't care a whit about veterans. It also stresses that they are running because they believe in teamwork and working across the aisle, something sorely lacking currently.

The main focus of the article is a gentleman named Max Rose, a former Captain in the Army who is running for office in New York City (!) but it does also provide background on other races around the country.


"Rose, a 5-foot-6 power pack with an upbeat, shoulders-back gait, is near the forefront of a surge of a certain sort of candidate in the 2018 election cycle. Veterans who are Democrats are vying for Congress in numbers not seen in decades.
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While the perception might exist that most veterans lean Republican, some 51 percent of the veterans who are or have been 2018 candidates, based on With Honor’s tally, are actually Democrats. "

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...stricts-217714
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Old 03-29-2018, 07:52 AM
 
Location: WY
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Terrific article about the increase in Iraq and Afghanistan veterans running for office this year, many of whom are running, like Conor Lamb in PA and Jason Crow in my congressional district in CO, as Democrats.

I thought it a great counterpoint to the arguments seen regularly here and elsewhere that insist that Democrats hate the military and don't care a whit about veterans. It also stresses that they are running because they believe in teamwork and working across the aisle, something sorely lacking currently.

The main focus of the article is a gentleman named Max Rose, a former Captain in the Army who is running for office in New York City (!) but it does also provide background on other races around the country.


"Rose, a 5-foot-6 power pack with an upbeat, shoulders-back gait, is near the forefront of a surge of a certain sort of candidate in the 2018 election cycle. Veterans who are Democrats are vying for Congress in numbers not seen in decades.
...
While the perception might exist that most veterans lean Republican, some 51 percent of the veterans who are or have been 2018 candidates, based on With Honor’s tally, are actually Democrats. "

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...stricts-217714
Thank you for posting this.

I am a conservative woman who voted for Trump. If he had run as an Independent I still would have voted for Trump. Not because of the party letter behind his name, but because of his platform.

There were many people who voted for Trump, who had voted for Obama once (or twice) in the two previous national elections. If they were blind hard liners, they would have voted for Clinton. They didn't.

Everyone likes to put people into neat little boxes because it's easier to deal with them that way. But a lot of people actually don't fall into neat boxes. It's about the candidate. The platform. The promises made and the promises broken or kept.

I hope that eventually the Democrat party gets its act together because true competition in elections (as in true competition in business) is good for the American people. What happened to the Democrat party this past election was toxic. I hope for better in the future (if they persuade people like Schumer, Pelosi, Waters, Boxer, Feinstein, Wasserman-Schulz, and pretty much every politician in California to retire). Right now, with so many crazies in the party, there is little breathing room left over for any moderate-liberal-leaning politician to gain traction. I wish these veteran aspiring-pols the best of luck.
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Old 03-31-2018, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Terrific article about the increase in Iraq and Afghanistan veterans running for office this year, many of whom are running, like Conor Lamb in PA and Jason Crow in my congressional district in CO, as Democrats.

I thought it a great counterpoint to the arguments seen regularly here and elsewhere that insist that Democrats hate the military and don't care a whit about veterans. It also stresses that they are running because they believe in teamwork and working across the aisle, something sorely lacking currently.

The main focus of the article is a gentleman named Max Rose, a former Captain in the Army who is running for office in New York City (!) but it does also provide background on other races around the country.


"Rose, a 5-foot-6 power pack with an upbeat, shoulders-back gait, is near the forefront of a surge of a certain sort of candidate in the 2018 election cycle. Veterans who are Democrats are vying for Congress in numbers not seen in decades.
...
While the perception might exist that most veterans lean Republican, some 51 percent of the veterans who are or have been 2018 candidates, based on With Honor’s tally, are actually Democrats. "

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...stricts-217714
I have problems accepting much of anything Politico has to say or write. I think it is safe to say, the majority of vets will be supporting the Republicans in Nov.
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Old 03-31-2018, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I have problems accepting much of anything Politico has to say or write. I think it is safe to say, the majority of vets will be supporting the Republicans in Nov.
Don't be so sure of that. As a vet, my experience says it's closer to 50/50. The vets I know tend to swing back and forth between parties more often than the average civilian voters do.

It's important to remember that veterans are vets of several wars. Each war tends to have it's own thing with them. Sometimes the vets from one war are more conservative, other times and other wars, they are more liberal.

Right now, we have veterans who are in their early 20s, and vets who are in their 80s. And even age in between. As times change, so do they.

Veteran's issues are really the key. The one who promises and delivers on the vet's issues is who they will vote for.
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Old 03-31-2018, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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They are becoming more pro-war so it makes sense.

Though not all vetrans are hawks the given examples are.
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Old 04-05-2018, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Originally Posted by TigerLily24 View Post
Terrific article about the increase in Iraq and Afghanistan veterans running for office this year, many of whom are running, like Conor Lamb in PA and Jason Crow in my congressional district in CO, as Democrats.

I thought it a great counterpoint to the arguments seen regularly here and elsewhere that insist that Democrats hate the military and don't care a whit about veterans. It also stresses that they are running because they believe in teamwork and working across the aisle, something sorely lacking currently.

The main focus of the article is a gentleman named Max Rose, a former Captain in the Army who is running for office in New York City (!) but it does also provide background on other races around the country.


"Rose, a 5-foot-6 power pack with an upbeat, shoulders-back gait, is near the forefront of a surge of a certain sort of candidate in the 2018 election cycle. Veterans who are Democrats are vying for Congress in numbers not seen in decades.
...
While the perception might exist that most veterans lean Republican, some 51 percent of the veterans who are or have been 2018 candidates, based on With Honor’s tally, are actually Democrats. "

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...stricts-217714
If Democrats decide to run reasonable candidates that are veterans who don't hate average Jane & Joe AMerican, they will certainly win more elections than what they have with their hateful rhetoric that we saw before and after the election of Trump.
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Old 04-05-2018, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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They are becoming more pro-war so it makes sense.

Though not all vetrans are hawks the given examples are.
Veterans are becoming MORE PRO WAR?

Uh, OK. I'll mention that at the next VFW meeting. I'll tell them you said it, not me.

Juneau's right. Vets do not want more war.
They want much better care of those who are damaged by our past wars.

As do I, and every other vet I know. Idaho has always sent a lot of her sons and daughters off to war, so I know quite a few vets, and I'm one myself. If you show up at the local VFW hall and spout that nonsense, they'll drag out out to the alley and change your mind.
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Old 04-05-2018, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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If Democrats decide to run reasonable candidates that are veterans who don't hate average Jane & Joe AMerican, they will certainly win more elections than what they have with their hateful rhetoric that we saw before and after the election of Trump.
I agree, or at least that is what I am hearing from current military and vets.
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