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Old 04-21-2018, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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If Flake had stayed and run again, I think he would have won. He bailed too soon.
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Old 04-21-2018, 06:41 AM
 
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The poll was 12% more GOP than Dem...
Why did you leave out the Independents?
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Old 04-21-2018, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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In a poll designed to reflect the electorate that will vote in November (+12 Republican registration), Donald Trump’s favorability rating is -13% (43% favorable to 56% unfavorable).

Let that sink in for a moment.

49% of voters view Trump very unfavorably as opposed to 30% very favorably.

Only 25% of Independents view Trump favorably to 74% unfavorably.



Turning to the Senate race, all three of the Republican candidates are viewed negatively; Martha McSally is at -2%, Kelli Ward at -5% and Joe Arpaio at a staggering -30%. The presumptive Democratic nominee, Krysten Sinema is at +20%.

In the R primary, Kelli Ward leads with 36%, followed by McSally at 27% and Sheriff Joe at 22%. Support for Arpaio is collapsing. He was tied with McSally for the lead in the January poll.

All three Republicans trail Sinema in the general, with McSally being the most competitive, trailing by 6% at 48-42. Kelli Ward trails Sinema by 10% and Arpaio trails by a staggering 26%.

Bottom line; Donald Trump is a huge factor in Arizona. The candidate positioning closer to Trump is more likely to win in the primary, but less likely to prevail in the general due to Trump’s standing with Independent voters.

http://createsend.com/t/i-E126967910...40EF23F30FEDED

https://www.abc15.com/news/state/ari...ary-poll-shows
Arizona is conservative, but not as conservative as most may think. We're not as crazy as we used to be.
I honestly think it'll be Sinema who'll end up winning it only because she's a center-left moderate candidate. Just the fact that McCain and Flake both are conservative (Flake is even more conservative than McCain) and they're both at odds with Trump, reflects how AZ feels about Trump overall. The whole "ok we'll give you a shot, oh wait you're crap".
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Old 04-21-2018, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Why did you leave out the Independents?
20% more Republicans than Independents....

What issue do you have with a sample that is 44% GOP, 32% Dem, 24% Ind??
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Old 04-21-2018, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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"Republicans are about 1/3 of the voters. ."They are not a majority. Your logic is severely flawed."

YOU reading comprehension is FLAWED.

I NEVER claimed that the repub "are the majority" of registered voters.

BUT who hold MOST Governorship's?

Who holds MORE state legislatures"

Who has the majority in the U.S. Senate?

Who has the majority in the House of Representative?

Who is in the White House?

Results from the last election. Do I have to tell you which party is red?



How can this be if the repubs are so low in the "majority" category?

Things like this is why I do NOT TRUST ANY POLL.

I look at the methodology, the weighing an who paid for it.

Plus, look at the SMALL number of people who participated in this "poll".

One would think that after the debacle of the polls in the last electron that NOBODY with any sense would trust them again.

But hey, if you want to keep believing in them, go for it!
Most of those red counties are sparsely populated, while the blue counties on that map have at least half of the countries population
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Old 04-21-2018, 09:18 AM
 
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"Republicans are about 1/3 of the voters. ."They are not a majority. Your logic is severely flawed."

YOU reading comprehension is FLAWED.

I NEVER claimed that the repub "are the majority" of registered voters.

BUT who hold MOST Governorship's?

Who holds MORE state legislatures"

Who has the majority in the U.S. Senate?

Who has the majority in the House of Representative?

Who is in the White House?

Results from the last election. Do I have to tell you which party is red?

How can this be if the repubs are so low in the "majority" category?

Things like this is why I do NOT TRUST ANY POLL.

I look at the methodology, the weighing an who paid for it.

Plus, look at the SMALL number of people who participated in this "poll".

One would think that after the debacle of the polls in the last electron that NOBODY with any sense would trust them again.

But hey, if you want to keep believing in them, go for it!
Gerrymandering can account for at least some of the majority in Congress. That's why Republicans always fight so hard against drawing state district maps fairly, such as in Pennsylvania. They know that without that built-in advantage, they run a much greater risk of losing their grip on power.


As for your map, you do realize that land doesn't vote, right? The blue areas are where population is concentrated or where there are heavy concentrations of racial minorities (like in parts of the Deep South) that vote almost entirely for Democrats.
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Old 04-21-2018, 10:31 AM
 
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I doubt McCain will ever resign. He will die in office before he ever quits.

I sure wouldn't count on him passing before the November elections, either. He's sick, but he's also about as physically tough and resilient as it gets. He'll likely still be around by the time his term ends.
McCain's type of brain cancer is very bad. Last year when it was announced, news reports showed that most people die is somewhere around 1-1.5 years after diagnosis.

McCain must be at risk of dying within the next few months. Else the AZ Republican state legislature wouldn't be rushing to pass a new bill which allows them to appoint his replacement, versus the current law which would allow voters to choose.

The AZ GOP likely has some insight into McCain's health, more than what the public knows. Else they wouldn't be trying so hard to pass a bill which takes away the voter's ability to choose McCain's successor, and instead allows the AZ GOP to appoint someone for several years. They surely wouldn't be rushing to pass this bill if they got word that McCain was likely to be alive when his term ends.
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Old 04-21-2018, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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McCain's type of brain cancer is very bad. Last year when it was announced, news reports showed that most people die is somewhere around 1-1.5 years after diagnosis.

McCain must be at risk of dying within the next few months. Else the AZ Republican state legislature wouldn't be rushing to pass a new bill which allows them to appoint his replacement, versus the current law which would allow voters to choose.

The AZ GOP likely has some insight into McCain's health, more than what the public knows. Else they wouldn't be trying so hard to pass a bill which takes away the voter's ability to choose McCain's successor, and instead allows the AZ GOP to appoint someone for several years. They surely wouldn't be rushing to pass this bill if they got word that McCain was likely to be alive when his term ends.
That is not what they are pushing. They are trying to change the latest date at which a vacated senate seat will need to be voted on in the next election. If McCain lasts past May 31 under the current law, the gov appoints a replacement till 2020 election. If he does not, then the seat comes up for a vote this fall. The new law would make it March 31 which, of course, has already gone by, so there would be no election until 2020. Dems also backed this bill until the Rs decided to make it an emergency so it would pertain to McCain's situation by becoming immediately effective. The Dems won't vote for it as an emergency and the Rs don't have enough votes otherwise. It is a dead issue.

In any case, I doubt McCain will quit/die before May 31, so this seat is likely not going to be up for a vote until 2020 regardless.
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Old 04-21-2018, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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That is not what they are pushing. They are trying to change the latest date at which a vacated senate seat will need to be voted on in the next election. If McCain lasts past May 31 under the current law, the gov appoints a replacement till 2020 election. If he does not, then the seat comes up for a vote this fall. The new law would make it March 31 which, of course, has already gone by, so there would be no election until 2020. Dems also backed this bill until the Rs decided to make it an emergency so it would pertain to McCain's situation by becoming immediately effective. The Dems won't vote for it as an emergency and the Rs don't have enough votes otherwise. It is a dead issue.

In any case, I doubt McCain will quit/die before May 31, so this seat is likely not going to be up for a vote until 2020 regardless.
Actually 2022, McCain was last elected in 2016
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Old 04-21-2018, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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McCain's type of brain cancer is very bad. Last year when it was announced, news reports showed that most people die is somewhere around 1-1.5 years after diagnosis.

McCain must be at risk of dying within the next few months. Else the AZ Republican state legislature wouldn't be rushing to pass a new bill which allows them to appoint his replacement, versus the current law which would allow voters to choose.

The AZ GOP likely has some insight into McCain's health, more than what the public knows. Else they wouldn't be trying so hard to pass a bill which takes away the voter's ability to choose McCain's successor, and instead allows the AZ GOP to appoint someone for several years. They surely wouldn't be rushing to pass this bill if they got word that McCain was likely to be alive when his term ends.
I have to agree with you; It appears his days are numbered but. still there is a chance he will make it through the next election. The GOP could be rushing just to protect themselves in case,then on the other hand why are we discussing the next election, he isn't running again until 2022. It is almost a sure thing he will die in office before then.
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