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I do think the country will gradually regionalize. One half hates the other too much. Blue states tend to innovate and support environmental protections while red states call education elitist, want to bring back coal and frack national parks.
Drawing new borders in such a scenario would be awkward when New Mexico, Colorado, Minnesota and Illinois are disconnected from other blue states. Also where would states like New Hampshire and Michigan that were virtual ties in the last election fit in, when either way about half of their voters would end up on the wrong side? How about somewhere like Florida, which has no coal mining and is very conscious of the environmental fragility of its coastline, yet voted slightly Republican for other reasons? Sorry - this is melodramatic from the side that lost last time, but has won before and will win again eventually.
Hillary is not running. Trump won't have Hillary to run against next time and Trump is doing every single thing he complained about Obama doing from golf, to vacations, campaigning on taxpayer money, to executive orders, to broken promises, to pay to play. In addition, Trump is hiring his own family, personally enriching himself while in office and making personal deals while dealing with foreign governments. When Obama left office, the unemployment was at 4%. Make no mistake, half the country hates Trump. His approval has never been 50%. Just because Trump supporters worship Trump doesn't mean the country does - not even close.
I do think the country will gradually regionalize. One half hates the other too much. Blue states tend to innovate and support environmental protections while red states call education elitist, want to bring back coal and frack national parks.
Hillary is the face they see of the dems now. She was not fit to run last time but dems nominated her anyway. It was her turn? Sounds like a childish game not a way to win elections.
Unemployment is not the only measure of a good economy. Interest rates are one as well and we got next to no interest on savings for 8 long years due to anemic growth as a result of Obama's polices. How was AA unemployment under Obama? How many people gave up looking for work who have found jobs now?
Obama hide from the press, people hear from and see Trump working much more than they did Obama. Many do not like his way of speaking or what he says but they know what he is up to more than they did Obama.
I do not hate people but dislike some policies of both sides but rarely do I hear a policy from the left that makes sense and which works as promised. I look at liberal bastions like Ca, Il and NY and do not see them doing well, so its the policy in my view.
You will win on policy not looks nor a good talker we learned our lesson on that one. So who do you have to run? I see no one who interests me they all sing from the same playbook we had for 8 years and see not working well in liberal states. Its not to complicated, but you cant just pick the candidate whose turn it is or call half the country loons like Nancy and Hillary and the rest have. Policies matter most and whats in second place is not close to mattering near as much. Your leaders claims on the tax bill are turning out to be big fat lies.... people will remember that.
The hate comes mostly from the left....folks like me just want folks like you to leave us alone. BTW I'm in a blue state. Your simple division of the states is not reality. The USA is not breaking up.
I wouldn't count on that, but time will tell. Yes, the left hates the right with equal fervor.
I think most republicans know, especially us deplorable types, that the coming election is almost as important as 2016, our last defense against the very real communist takeover of the institutions the USA. The democrats are simply communist wolves in sheep's clothing and the little tiny bikini of clothing they are wearing are just two bandaids and a cork.
Hillary is the face they see of the dems now. She was not fit to run last time but dems nominated her anyway. It was her turn? Sounds like a childish game not a way to win elections.
Unemployment is not the only measure of a good economy. Interest rates are one as well and we got next to no interest on savings for 8 long years due to anemic growth as a result of Obama's polices. How was AA unemployment under Obama? How many people gave up looking for work who have found jobs now?
Obama hide from the press, people hear from and see Trump working much more than they did Obama. Many do not like his way of speaking or what he says but they know what he is up to more than they did Obama.
I do not hate people but dislike some policies of both sides but rarely do I hear a policy from the left that makes sense and which works as promised. I look at liberal bastions like Ca, Il and NY and do not see them doing well, so its the policy in my view.
You will win on policy not looks nor a good talker we learned our lesson on that one. So who do you have to run? I see no one who interests me they all sing from the same playbook we had for 8 years and see not working well in liberal states. Its not to complicated, but you cant just pick the candidate whose turn it is or call half the country loons like Nancy and Hillary and the rest have. Policies matter most and whats in second place is not close to mattering near as much. Your leaders claims on the tax bill are turning out to be big fat lies.... people will remember that.
Trump is older than Hillary and Trump will be 74 in 2020. He would be pushing 80 at the end of his term and even fatter.
Obama came into office during a recession, which Bush left him. Trump in a year in a half has already added $1.5 Trillion to the deficit. Liberal states are doing extremely well, in spite of the GOP rhetoric and 83% of the GOP tax bill benefited the top 1%. Trump gave billions to billionaires including enriching himself.
Drawing new borders in such a scenario would be awkward when New Mexico, Colorado, Minnesota and Illinois are disconnected from other blue states. Also where would states like New Hampshire and Michigan that were virtual ties in the last election fit in, when either way about half of their voters would end up on the wrong side? How about somewhere like Florida, which has no coal mining and is very conscious of the environmental fragility of its coastline, yet voted slightly Republican for other reasons? Sorry - this is melodramatic from the side that lost last time, but has won before and will win again eventually.
States like California, Oregon and Washington already work together closely, the entire West Coast tech corridor is extremely strong. The Northeast does the same thing. Colorado aligns with the West since they share sensibilities around technology, the environment and marijuana. Minnesota and Illinois would more closely align with the Northeast but time will tell. Florida will have to figure it out. Their population leans older, relies heavily on Social Security and Medicare but the GOP will try to gut that once they see the deficits they've created and Florida is filling up with refugees from Puerto Rico, that were tossed aside by Trump. While southern Florida does care about the environment, northern Florida is just as southern as Kentucky.
Trump is older than Hillary and Trump will be 74 in 2020. He would be pushing 80 at the end of his term and even fatter.
Obama came into office during a recession, which Bush left him. Trump in a year in a half has already added $1.5 Trillion to the deficit. Liberal states are doing extremely well, in spite of the GOP rhetoric and 83% of the GOP tax bill benefited the top 1%. Trump gave billions to billionaires including enriching himself.
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The deep recession came about as a result of fed gov policy relaxing home loan standards which nearly sunk is. Both parties did this not just Bush.
There is a lag between when taxes are cut and when the robust growth kicks in. I doubt it will be strong enough to cure our debt ills so other measures are needed and not the omnibus budget that passed. Remind me did Obama ever pass a budget? If he did it was for one or at most two of his 8 year term.
Your state and Ca are bastions of innovation which is driving your economies up but they should be better if not for anti business, socialism approaches that I do not see working long term.
DC and Va as well as Md benefit from a spendthrift fed gov, which by some measures has them not seeing recessions as the gov growth and spending drives their economies.
I think Ca should be higher but is not higher despite the boon of innovation in silicon valley driving strong growth but it is being held back by policies that will catch up with and slow the growth in due time.
I see action and see a direction I believe works from Trump. From Obama I saw anti business heading toward socialism ideas. I believe Obama oppose strong growth as its harder on the earth than it is on people in his view. I do not agree with that view.
So who are you going to run. I know its not Hillary nor Pelosi but they are in the news as the face of the dem party. Whose going to run and are they going to be further left and more like Bernie or mor in the middle than Obama? I only see the ones leaning left so far and none seem to have hit the mark in my view
..................So who are you going to run. I know its not Hillary nor Pelosi but they are in the news as the face of the dem party. Whose going to run and are they going to be further left and more like Bernie or mor in the middle than Obama? I only see the ones leaning left so far and none seem to have hit the mark in my view
It looks like my favorite pundits have it right. It was predicted that the Democrats will chase each other farther and farther left in a continuous effort to show who is farthest from Trump. So far, that is exactly what they are doing.
I look for lots of women (already happening) running on programs that fewer and fewer people find interesting.
If that happens, Republicans will walk away with enough victories to keep doing what they are doing.
The deep recession came about as a result of fed gov policy relaxing home loan standards which nearly sunk is. Both parties did this not just Bush.
There is a lag between when taxes are cut and when the robust growth kicks in. I doubt it will be strong enough to cure our debt ills so other measures are needed and not the omnibus budget that passed. Remind me did Obama ever pass a budget? If he did it was for one or at most two of his 8 year term.
Your state and Ca are bastions of innovation which is driving your economies up but they should be better if not for anti business, socialism approaches that I do not see working long term.
DC and Va as well as Md benefit from a spendthrift fed gov, which by some measures has them not seeing recessions as the gov growth and spending drives their economies.
I think Ca should be higher but is not higher despite the boon of innovation in silicon valley driving strong growth but it is being held back by policies that will catch up with and slow the growth in due time.
I see action and see a direction I believe works from Trump. From Obama I saw anti business heading toward socialism ideas. I believe Obama oppose strong growth as its harder on the earth than it is on people in his view. I do not agree with that view.
So who are you going to run. I know its not Hillary nor Pelosi but they are in the news as the face of the dem party. Whose going to run and are they going to be further left and more like Bernie or mor in the middle than Obama? I only see the ones leaning left so far and none seem to have hit the mark in my view
California is the 5th strongest economy in the world. Republicans have been predicting the demise of these strong coastal states forever and yet they keep innovating while flyover states say they want to bring back coal. At no point was Obama anti-business but Obama did recognize that West Virginia was running out of coal. Obama created programs to help Appalachia retrain and the coal miners refused to take the training. Time will tell on who Democrats will run and we have plenty of time but that doesn't change the reality that Trumpism has split the country in ways that we will continue to see escalate. If GOP policies were so great, why are so many red states always at the bottom of the list? That question never gets answered.
California is the 5th strongest economy in the world. Republicans have been predicting the demise of these strong coastal states forever..............
No, they haven't. No one of significance predicted the demise of California, Oregon or Washington.
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