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The dems and their party lost the election. I wouldnt talk if I was them since they couldnt appeal to the whole country. Bernie was doing pretty good until the dirty dealing by the national committee. Keep the nonsense up and the D party will lose the next Presidential election.
Your post contradicts itself. He purposefully derailed a democratic candidate simply because they did not agree on a couple of issues.
That is clearly not "doing the bidding" of the party, as you put it.
You really love making statements that fail to address what the poster has written and that arrive at conclusions based on a misreading of information.
Also, Bernie Sanders did not purposefully derail anyone. He, like any other person had the right to do, mounted a serious primarily challenge during the 2016 Democrat nominating process. The Democrat Party was the natural fit for Sanders, given his many years of caucusing with the Democrat Party in the US Senate and supporting Democrat Party policies and causes. Yes, that is doing the bidding of the party and it would have continued had he been elected. That the DNC wanted no challenge to its preferred candidate and went out of its way to rig the system in her favor doesn't alter this point.
But the Democrat Party can continue to shoot itself in the foot with nonsense like this. I certainly think it only increases the chance that President Trump is reelected!
I like Bernie a lot and I agree with him on many things. But I don't think he would be a good president for this country with the political climate we are in. I wish it were otherwise but it's not. As a liberal, I feel like we need a Democratic candidate in 2020 that is just as combative as Trump is but with intelligence and maturity. That's a huge weakness for Trump. I don't think we should nominate a woman because women don't support women. Because we don't have as strong a bench as I would like to see at this time, I would be open to Howard Schultz if he could win the Democratic nomination but a lot of things can happen between now and then.
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Originally Posted by Williepaws
The dems and their party lost the election. I wouldnt talk if I was them since they couldnt appeal to the whole country. Bernie was doing pretty good until the dirty dealing by the national committee. Keep the nonsense up and the D party will lose the next Presidential election.
Trump does not appeal to the whole country!!! He's the first president in my lifetime that didn't remotely moderate after the election, he instead goes out of his way to provoke and insult the half of the country that pays the most in taxes. Trump won by 70,000 votes in three states and lost the popular vote by 3 million. If 35,000 voters had gone the other way in those three states, Trump would have lost. 35,000 is miniscule. Trump threaded the thinnest of needles and his supporters act like he has overwhelming support which he's never had.
No, you are not clear. We aren't trying to punish Sanders, we are telling him that if he wants to use the party's infrastructure and receive all its benefits, he has to join the party.
Why is this so hard for so many of you to understand?
Gotcha. So your party, in an attempt to ensure party loyalty for a man who has proven himself loyal to the party in everything but an official name change (what more could you ask for???), passes a rules change that does nothing more than anger a sizable number said man's supporters? https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...porters-634998
Meanwhile, Sanders, a self-proclaimed democratic socialist, found himself defending his own credentials as a member of the Democratic Party, noting that the party's leadership on Capitol Hill has placed him in high-ranking positions on congressional committees."Of course I am a Democrat and running for the Democratic nomination," he said.
It's amusing watching Trump supporters trying to stir the pot with Democrats. They did the same thing with Hillary in 2008, acting like "poor Hillary" when she lost only to disembowel her in 2016.
You really love making statements that fail to address what the poster has written and that arrive at conclusions based on a misreading of information.
Also, Bernie Sanders did not purposefully derail anyone. He, like any other person had the right to do, mounted a serious primarily challenge during the 2016 Democrat nominating process. The Democrat Party was the natural fit for Sanders, given his many years of caucusing with the Democrat Party in the US Senate and supporting Democrat Party policies and causes. Yes, that is doing the bidding of the party and it would have continued had he been elected. That the DNC wanted no challenge **** preferred candidate and went out of its way to rig the system in her favor doesn't alter this point.
But the Democrat Party can continue to shoot itself in the foot with nonsense like this. I certainly think it only increases the chance that President Trump is reelected!
No, you simply do not seem to understand the context of the discussion you dropped in to.
What i am talking about is not Sanders simply running in the primary, its he and his group/campaign continuing an internal party fight after having lost.
If you geniuinly didnt understand that, fine, but it looks more like you .... to quote yourself " really love making statements that fail to address what the poster has written and that arrive at conclusions based on a misreading of information. "
I like Bernie a lot and I agree with him on many things. But I don't think he would be a good president for this country with the political climate we are in. I wish it were otherwise but it's not. As a liberal, I feel like we need a Democratic candidate in 2020 that is just as combative as Trump is but with intelligence and maturity. That's a huge weakness for Trump. I don't think we should nominate a woman because women don't support women. Because we don't have as strong a bench as I would like to see at this time, I would be open to Howard Schultz if he could win the Democratic nomination but a lot of things can happen between now and then.
No, you simply do not seem to understand the context of the discussion you dropped in to.
What i am talking about is not Sanders simply running in the primary, its he and his group/campaign continuing an internal party fight after having lost.
If you geniuinly didnt understand that, fine, but it looks more like you .... to quote yourself " really love making statements that fail to address what the poster has written and that arrive at conclusions based on a misreading of information. "
Nope, you just continue making assumptions/coming to conclusions that are false and ignore the context of my posts. But its not the first time you've done so and it won't be the last.
Do explain in detail how I contradicted myself (and objectively so), though, as you haven't done so now. I get that you may disagree with my analysis, and that's OK. But that hardly equates to what you claim it did.
And internal party fights are not inherently a bad thing and are happening with people who are "registered Democrats." Seriously, though, the internal party fighting wouldn't change if Sanders declared himself as a Democrat and registered to vote as a member of that party. This makes the proposed rule change even more loony and counterproductive to winning. But, again, I don't see that as a bad thing!
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