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This could go in many threads or even be it's own but I will leave it here. Note, NOT Fox News.
A troubling new poll was just released showing that the Democratic Party is significantly less popular than both Donald Trump and Mike Pence. My gut tells me that Democrats will ignore this poll, or blame it on bad polling, and continue down the same course they are currently on: being funded by lobbyists and the 1%, straddling the fence or outright ignoring many of most inspirational issues of the time, and blaming Bernie Sanders for why they aren't in power right now.
As a general rule the Democratic Party doesn't listen well and struggles to hear the truth about itself.
When good people who are frustrated with the Democratic Party express their genuine concerns, I see them being told to shut up and unify. "Now is not the time for public complaints," they are told. "We must all work together."
This could go in many threads or even be it's own but I will leave it here. Note, NOT Fox News.
A troubling new poll was just released showing that the Democratic Party is significantly less popular than both Donald Trump and Mike Pence. My gut tells me that Democrats will ignore this poll, or blame it on bad polling, and continue down the same course they are currently on: being funded by lobbyists and the 1%, straddling the fence or outright ignoring many of most inspirational issues of the time, and blaming Bernie Sanders for why they aren't in power right now.
As a general rule the Democratic Party doesn't listen well and struggles to hear the truth about itself.
When good people who are frustrated with the Democratic Party express their genuine concerns, I see them being told to shut up and unify. "Now is not the time for public complaints," they are told. "We must all work together."
Oh, well, I'm sure a poll from March 2017 TOTALLY reflects things today.
What's that? You say there has been new polling since then? And that Pence's favorable/unfavorable is now 36/46 in the most recent poll, and that it's 29 yes/60 no on whether this country is one the right track.
My goodness, it's almost like you deliberately lied in order to claim some bogus point that doesn't exist.
One could as easily point out that the party wants my backing but they aren't interested in what I want even though they pretend to.
It's already been pointed out that Bernie can't register as a (D).
Like it or not, Trump is doing the things that the people who elected him to do want him to do. Are the parties suppose to represent the people or their own interests?
Bernie stood for far more of the things that the (D)'s say they stand for than did Hillary.
All great points.
The Democratic party does want to pull in some of Sanders' supporters yet they don't want to risk a Trump-like hijack.
I'm not going to debate here about whether Trump is doing good things or not. And I won't debate about whether he is representing the wants of his voters or just a small subset of his voters. But, the party does represent its own interests. It is never about the people. It is about telling the people what they want. It shouldn't be that way. I think we'd agree on that.
Honestly, I'm not sure where Bernie stood in relation to Democratic ideals. I'm not disagreeing. I'd have to go back and read exactly what he said again. Sometimes we hear what we want to hear as opposed to hearing what was actually said. That's the magic of politicians. The sleight of hand (or I guess mouth?) is a talent a good politician always possesses.
I don't know what Democrats will do in 2020. I wonder if anyone has the stomach to run against Trump. Let alone if anyone worth a damn will run against Trump.
The Democratic party does want to pull in some of Sanders' supporters yet they don't want to risk a Trump-like hijack.
Nominating someone that the Sanders supporters can support is how you do that.
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I'm not going to debate here about whether Trump is doing good things or not. And I won't debate about whether he is representing the wants of his voters or just a small subset of his voters. But, the party does represent its own interests. It is never about the people. It is about telling the people what they want. It shouldn't be that way. I think we'd agree on that.
Honestly, I'm not sure where Bernie stood in relation to Democratic ideals. I'm not disagreeing. I'd have to go back and read exactly what he said again. Sometimes we hear what we want to hear as opposed to hearing what was actually said. That's the magic of politicians. The sleight of hand (or I guess mouth?) is a talent a good politician always possesses.
I don't know what Democrats will do in 2020. I wonder if anyone has the stomach to run against Trump. Let alone if anyone worth a damn will run against Trump.
Trump won't be difficult to beat with a good candidate. Another poor one wont be hard for Trump to beat.
I don't care who they run in 2020, as long as we derail Trump's border control plans. As a business owner, I cannot afford for those plans to go through, as they would destroy my business. I rely on a constant supply of cheap, unskilled labor to keep my business profitable and to maintain my lifestyle.
If I had to pay Americans to do these jobs, and contribute to social security, medicare, unemployment, etc as well as 401k and health insurance, I would be in trouble.
Did you forget the "/sarc" at the end?
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