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That was Obama's problem. He was too cowardly to stand for anything because he was too afraid of how the GOP would spin it and it was too much work for him to explain it to the people.
She was raised mostly in a wealthy suburb and moved back to the Bronx after college ..
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the Democratic Party’s rising socialist star, describes herself as “a girl from the Bronx” to project a working-class image. However, this claim is only half true – to borrow a phrase from the left-wing website PolitiFact
Congrats to her, especially after being outspent. I've seen one source that the spending was 18-1, and another 10-1. Either way, that is an inspirational win.
However, I can't say I'm thrilled at getting a self-IDed socialist in the U.S. house. Venezuela is not doing to great under socialism.
I see she has an econ degree from Boston U--what kind of econ are they teaching there? And her GOP opponent is an econ professor at St John's U, so that could make for an interesting race.
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What exactly is so bad about retirement security for our elderly and guaranteeing health care for every American citizen? That's not Venezuela. Thats pretty much every developed country in the world. Its funny how we are told we can not compare ourselves to any developed country because we are supposed to be so different. Yet, a corrupt third world dictatorship like Venezuela is apparently an apt comparison with America...
Non-sequitur. Alexandria self-identifies as socialist. Venezuela moved heavily towards socialism after the election of Chavez in 1999. That, not corruption, is the source of much of their problems. Socialism (gov't ownership/operation of the means of production) has not worked wherever it has been tried.
The basic problem with socialism is that if everyone owns something, nobody owns it. And if no one owns it, there is no one to hold accountable. There was an old saying in the USSR--they pretend to pay us, and we pretend to work. And that's how an economy ends up in ruins.
Non-sequitur. Alexandria self-identifies as socialist.
No, she self identifies as a democratic socialist and is running on an economic platform that is to the right of the conservative parties in our European allies.
Venezuela is a third world corrupt dictatorship and has been for many decades. But sure, keep telling yourself that we have more in common with that country than any of our closest allies.
No, she self identifies as a democratic socialist and is running on an economic platform that is to the right of the conservative parties in our European allies.
Venezuela is a third world corrupt dictatorship and has been for many decades. But sure, keep telling yourself that we have more in common with that country than any of our closest allies.
Are you saying that 'democratic socialist' is not socialist?
Where did I say that we had 'more in common' with Venezuela? Have you read any books about Venezuela? They moved heavily towards socialism only after Chavez. They were actually the most, prosperous nations in South America before Chavez. Chavez was a persuaded, true-believer socialist. And btw, everything that Chavez did, he did by winning elections. So he was a 'democratic socialist.'
So all you anti socialists believe we don't need social services: fire, police, postal, highways, fema, homeland security, national guard, tax collections, govt (private govt, novel thought) etc etc etc.
I guess trump and company want to privatize everything our country has been built on.
Are you saying that 'democratic socialist' is not socialist?
Where did I say that we had 'more in common' with Venezuela? Have you read any books about Venezuela? They moved heavily towards socialism only after Chavez. They were actually the most, prosperous nations in South America before Chavez. Chavez was a persuaded, true-believer socialist. And btw, everything that Chavez did, he did by winning elections. So he was a 'democratic socialist.'
Dont we have more in common with Venezuela than our European allies? Isnt that why right wingers refuse to accept that safety net programs that work in Europe, and which Cortez is advocating for, can never work in America, but instead it will turn us into Venezuela?
"Prosperous nation in South America"...Quite an oxymoron. It was and is a third world deeply corrupt country. You are saying that this country's path is highly relevant for us if we move to Medicare for those under 65. I dont believe that for a second. The same scare mongering was said about Medicare for those over 65 as well. And Social Security. Just listen to what the conservatives said about Social Security:
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Daniel Reed, a Republican representative from New York, predicted that with Social Security, Americans would come to feel “the lash of the dictator.” Senator Daniel Hastings, a Delaware Republican, declared that Social Security would “end the progress of a great country.”
John Taber, a Republican representative from New York, went further and said of Social Security: “Never in the history of the world has any measure been brought here so insidiously designed as to prevent business recovery, to enslave workers.”
No, she self identifies as a democratic socialist and is running on an economic platform that is to the right of the conservative parties in our European allies.
Venezuela is a third world corrupt dictatorship and has been for many decades. But sure, keep telling yourself that we have more in common with that country than any of our closest allies.
Ever look at the unemployment rates of our European allies ?
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