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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty
You have to ask Obama that.
And as we know by now, everything that Obama laid his hands on, turned to ****.
Edit: It's my opinion that this was Biden's "price" for supporting Obama instead of Hillary Clinton in 2008. Obama was battling the Clinton money machine. Bad news for Biden, Obama double crossed Biden in 2012 when he made the "deal" to support Clinton in 2016 in return for Clinton not trying to primary Obama in 2012.
In this, Obama got the last laugh against them both.
Joe Biden didnt endorse Obama until June of 2008, after the primaries were over and Obama was the clear nominee.
Your opinion is based on a flawed premise that Obama needed Biden's endorsement.
No he wouldn't. He didn't have the $$$ and donors to go against Hillary Clinton and Obama already made a deal with the Clintons that he would support her. So Biden had little to no support to challenge Hillary in a national primary. That would have given the nomination to Sanders.
You are very wrong. He would have most certainly run if it wasn't for Beau dying. In fact Beau told him to run, but his heart wasn't in it because he wanted to be there for the family. That was his focus and priority.
The Republicans have someone who can stop him: Mueller
What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Now, thanks to your side, we can start an investigation that will last for years the next time you put somebody in the WH. We do not have to produce evidence; all we have to say is that it is an ongoing investigation. We do not even have to stick to the story line; we can go after any of their acquaintances for any reason.
So, smile now; but wait and see what happens if Bidden, Hillary, Warren or Sanders lands the number one spot and the tables are turned. Also there is a very good chance that Mueller will not produce your desired results; but that story could change with Hillary.
Joe Biden didnt endorse Obama until June of 2008, after the primaries were over and Obama was the clear nominee.
Your opinion is based on a flawed premise that Obama needed Biden's endorsement.
also, what is your proof of this "deal", LOL
Here are the facts.
Neither Obama nor Clinton had won enough delegates to cinch the nomination by June 2008 Clinton also won the popular vote. It would be the Super Delegates who would decide it, not the voters.
Biden's support was hugely important given that Clinton had won the popular vote.
As for the "facts" which you demand, I said it was my opinion.
Hopefully Hillary stays out. She has had her chances and failed. She could not close the deal.
She's running. Count on it. Without it she becomes irrelevant...her biggest fear is the final exit from the public spotlight. I'm betting her ego won't allow it.
She's running. Count on it. Without it she becomes irrelevant...her biggest fear is the final exit from the public spotlight. I'm betting her ego won't allow it.
She's running. Count on it. Without it she becomes irrelevant...her biggest fear is the final exit from the public spotlight. I'm betting her ego won't allow it.
Only in your fondest dreams.
Hillary is as done as yesterday's roast that was left in the oven all night.
You are just transferring Trump's fears onto her. She neither craves the spotlight any longer nor wants to run again. She knows full well she will only lose again if she does.
Can you name any winner who ever won a party nomination the third time around? Nope. You can't.
Because there aren't any, except in the fringe parties.
No Democrat nor Repub has ever won the nomination after two previous losses, especially when one loss was a nomination.
Of course, Donald Trump would love nothing better than to run against Hillary again. He still cherishes his first victory, and hog that he is, wants every more of it, just to wallow in it longer. Ain't ever gonna happen though, for you or for him.
If he's still around come 2020, both of you are going to just have to take your chances. It will definitely not be a replay of 2016, and Trump had better get ready for a surprise, because the Democratic nominee will be coming out of nowhere on a flat-out gallop at him. it won't be an old lady in the saddle, either.
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