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Old 07-08-2018, 02:51 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Frankly, I would like to see her run, and see her win the nomination.
There are millions like me who did not vote for Trump but would now, and there are millions who voted for Hillary and would sit it out if she runs again.
There would be almost no new Hillary voters.
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Old 07-08-2018, 11:50 PM
 
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"run"?? Heck that old bat can barely walk!


Didn't WEEKEND AT BERNIE'S have a part 2? This would be sort of like that.

In any event, I think they learned their lesson. I warned 'em.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/elect...l#post46304097
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Old 07-09-2018, 06:05 AM
 
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Technically, she has the "right" to run again if she chooses to. I don't know how many strings she still has tied to the DNC after 2016 though. She'd run afoul of the precedent that Democratic nominees that lose the general don't run for president again. The last time a Democrat did that was Adlai Stevenson. Apparently after getting decimated by Eisenhower in 1952 (442-89) he decided that beating wasn't harsh enough so he lost again to Eisenhower in 1956 (457-73).

I'm wonder if the Democratic Party ran with Stevenson twice because no one else would step to the plate. Who knows, Hillary 2020 might happen. Given how close the last election was, a less flawed candidate could unseat an incumbent. But, I think if Democrats want a shot, they need someone not already passed their expiration date.

Fun fact: Nixon lost to JFK in 1960 but then successfully ran and won in 1968.
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Old 07-09-2018, 06:07 AM
 
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Donald Trump hands down has my vote in 2020.

The Democrats need to stop being crazy cry babies and find someone new No Biden,Clinton,Sanders. They should spend the next 2 years getting their party together and find someone decent to run against Donald Trump. Hillary is old and washed up she can't take a loss she just needs to retire and enjoy life.
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Old 07-09-2018, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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She will certainly WIN the nomination...……...of the Chardonnay Party.
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Old 07-09-2018, 07:54 AM
 
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No way she runs. All the problems she had in 2016 will only magnify. And with each passing day the Clinton 'brand' becomes more a thing of the past. There is no logical reason to attempt running yet another 1990s style campaign/candidate in the 2020s.


If the Democrats want to win they are going to have to bring home their younger and more liberal voters. Trump has now reinforced what Bush and Obama knew in 2004 and 2012- you win by amping up your base. Not losing too many moderates helps but the real key is getting a smaller but dedicated group of supporters who will actually vote as opposed to pleasing folks in the middle who no longer do.
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Old 07-09-2018, 07:58 AM
 
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Come on, seriously dude - There is NO WAY IN HELL Hillary will be let near the democratic party as a candidate. No one wants her. She's a pariah in her party.
If there is one person more unlikeable than Trump in the democratic party, it's Hillary.
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Old 07-09-2018, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Here an interesting and thoughtful article about Hillary. Michael Goodwin discussed why she might run and why she might (probably will?) win the nomination.


Goodwin is a NY Post reporter. This article appeared today in multiple outlets including (GASP!) Fox News.
https://nypost.com/2018/07/07/is-hil...o-run-in-2020/
I don't care where you read this or say it, I think the chances are about 75% she will not run again. There are several reasons for this, but number one is, she has already shown she is a loser when it comes to running for president and she has a horrible problem accepting this. That is adding insult to injury. Add to that her age and her showing she doesn't handle pressure too well. We saw this in both 2008 and again in 2016. Add to that her age and you get a "NO WAY" sign. The only hope for her would be the Dems getting desperate for someone and that isn't likely to happen..
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Old 07-09-2018, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Technically, she has the "right" to run again if she chooses to. I don't know how many strings she still has tied to the DNC after 2016 though. She'd run afoul of the precedent that Democratic nominees that lose the general don't run for president again. The last time a Democrat did that was Adlai Stevenson. Apparently after getting decimated by Eisenhower in 1952 (442-89) he decided that beating wasn't harsh enough so he lost again to Eisenhower in 1956 (457-73).

I'm wonder if the Democratic Party ran with Stevenson twice because no one else would step to the plate. Who knows, Hillary 2020 might happen. Given how close the last election was, a less flawed candidate could unseat an incumbent. But, I think if Democrats want a shot, they need someone not already passed their expiration date.

Fun fact: Nixon lost to JFK in 1960 but then successfully ran and won in 1968.
This is true, but the situation was very different then, than now. He had not first lost the nomination to a unknown like she did and then lost the election. Plus Nixon was running against a very different type of candidate. Add to that, someone mentioning Reagan. He never lost the election to anyone. He lost the nomination. That has happened many times. Losing the nomination is very different than losing the election
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Old 07-09-2018, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Florida & Cebu, Philippines
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The dems should put up
Hillary 2020!-capture.jpg
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