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You're not "stuck" with Republicans---vote Democratic
The people who vote GOP for the most part do so for SOCIAL reasons --anti abortion, anti-gay, anti whatever
And most of them do not benefit from the policies the GOP legislature has had in play for two decades
Texas teachers are finding this out with their health coverage and their pension system
They normally vote GOP for any election and are paying the price because the legislature has no desire to do what it will take to honor the commitment to Texas educators and most in the legislature would be happy to do away with public education altogether
You couldn't be more wrong, we vote GOP for more jobs, lower taxes and more "leave me the F alone". If Democrats stopped openly supporting illegal immigrants, open borders, higher taxes and less freedoms they'd be in power forever.
Beto held his own
He is more empathetic and more positive
Cruz tried to smear Beto any chance he got by linking him to HRC or Bernie Saunders vs addressing Beto's policies
He repeated misrepresentations about Beto's policies every chance he got and drifted off-topic on at least 3 of the questions--because the answer would not really have served his purpose
The crowd WAS more pro Cruz--
It was at SMU for gosh sake's and while there are some counter-culture students there, most are as conservative as any Highland Park millionaire...
I thought the two moderators (the guy especially) were not good at keeping Cruz in check
He did abuse the time rules
Beto hit the time limit pretty much spot on with all his responses including the ones with shorter allotments
The one time Beto really missed zinging Cruz was when Beto mentioned Ted had been to every county in Iowa when he was campaigning for the GOP nomination but not to every TX county--
That Cruz had missed more than 50% of the Senate votes in 2017--and what person stays hired at work if he misses 50% of his work time
Cruz mentioned in his rebuttal all the times he was in TX--
Well it was all the disasters--the hurricane, the West explosion, the church shooting--
All just photo ops for Ted...
He has done 0 town halls open to ANY Texan--
He won't do them because he is afraid of those who dislike his politics and performance showing up
He only does arranged events with carefully screened audience members--usually high $$ donors...
You couldn't be more wrong, we vote GOP for more jobs, lower taxes and more "leave me the F alone". If Democrats stopped openly supporting illegal immigrants, open borders, higher taxes and less freedoms they'd be in power forever.
Democrats don't support "open borders"
Even Cruz defended using immigration labor before Trump showed up
Cruz HAD been one of he more progressive Senators because he knows Texas farming needs migrant/cheap labor...
Democrats support FAIR taxes
What freedoms do you think Democrats want to take away
Freedom to be shot in your own church by guy who never should have been able to buy a rifle???
Is that a right--dying because you are in the wrong place at the wrong time--guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment?
You couldn't be more wrong, we vote GOP for more jobs, lower taxes and more "leave me the F alone". If Democrats stopped openly supporting illegal immigrants, open borders, higher taxes and less freedoms they'd be in power forever.
I agree with that 100%! But, do you really think that Republicans are the “leave me the F alone” party. They seem to care more about keeping gays in the closet, keeping racial minorities down, overspending taxpayer money for powerful business interests and defense industry and imposing their crude christian religion onto every citizen. Illegals have ruined the Dem party which once stood for working Americans.
I'm confused -- what exactly is he saying that isn't true or is racist?
AGAIN, Beto was telling blacks and Hispanics that they are needed "AT THE COTTON GIN".
Just imagine the uproar if a conservative would have said that. Ironically, Trump apprently just SAID the word "Hispanic" at his Las Vegas rally, and CNN screamed it from their headlines.
Beto's racism is being exposed, on top of his criminal record being well known now. You cannot stop that fact.
Beto is a racist with a criminal record.
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Beto held his own
He is more empathetic and more positive
Cruz tried to smear Beto any chance he got by linking him to HRC or Bernie Saunders vs addressing Beto's policies
He repeated misrepresentations about Beto's policies every chance he got and drifted off-topic on at least 3 of the questions--because the answer would not really have served his purpose
The crowd WAS more pro Cruz--
It was at SMU for gosh sake's and while there are some counter-culture students there, most are as conservative as any Highland Park millionaire...
I thought the two moderators (the guy especially) were not good at keeping Cruz in check
He did abuse the time rules
Beto hit the time limit pretty much spot on with all his responses including the ones with shorter allotments
The one time Beto really missed zinging Cruz was when Beto mentioned Ted had been to every county in Iowa when he was campaigning for the GOP nomination but not to every TX county--
That Cruz had missed more than 50% of the Senate votes in 2017--and what person stays hired at work if he misses 50% of his work time
Cruz mentioned in his rebuttal all the times he was in TX--
Well it was all the disasters--the hurricane, the West explosion, the church shooting--
All just photo ops for Ted...
He has done 0 town halls open to ANY Texan--
He won't do them because he is afraid of those who dislike his politics and performance showing up
He only does arranged events with carefully screened audience members--usually high $$ donors...
THAT should have been part of Beto's remarks...
Isn't that cute?...BETO....
"BETO," which appears as the lone word on most of his campaign signs and literature. In addition to sidestepping every issue that he previously made himself very clear on , Robert Francis O'Rourke is a fraud, relying on the uninformed who will a vote for someone they THINK is Hispanic. That's his schtick.
And where the hell are the cultural appropriation screams?
AGAIN, Beto was telling blacks and Hispanics that they are needed "AT THE COTTON GIN".
Just imagine the uproar if a conservative would have said that. Ironically, Trump apprently just SAID the word "Hispanic" at his Las Vegas rally, and CNN screamed it from their headlines.
Beto's racism is being exposed, on top of his criminal record being well known now. You cannot stop that fact.
Beto is a racist with a criminal record.
What’s clear is that you’ve invented an alternate reality where you hear people say things they didn’t and you’ve made yourself an authority on racism which you aren’t.
Conservatives clearly feel threatened by Beto. It’s one thing to go after what his positions are but another to make up things (which is what you’re doing) and assign them to him.
I’ve asked you to point out the specific phrase that you felt was racist and you haven’t done it. It’s because YOU CANT DO IT. You’re incapable of pointing it out and explaining why that specific phrase was racist. All you can say is “but if a conservative has said it...”.
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from your OP "the Beto crowd was respectfully silent and the Cruz crowd acted like they were at a football game and ignored the innumerable warnings to please, please hold your reaction. "
then in the very post I'm quoting tou say "Incidents of sustained disruptive reaction:
Cruz - 12 Beto - 4
Incidents of brief, nondisruptive reaction, by a few members:
Cruz - 10 Beto - 12"
So which is it? Betos supporters were quiet or were they disruptive at times? Make up your mind.
And why believe your post anyway when the facts prove otherwise?
Like this fact - Beto told Cruz he had his facts wrong at the 15:30 mark. You said in this very same post it never happened. Why listen to you when you are obviously biased, don't care about the truth and don't care about policy? It's always about policy.
So ClaraC you want to show proof I made it about which supporters were worse? I made it about your inability to point out what is important. Not one thing about policy. Your post is a joke.
If you don't think those numbers show that Cruz supporters were rowdier than Beto supporters, by a long shot, there's not much to discuss here.
I maintain, and am backed up by the numbers, that Beto supporters were a much more respectful audience than the Cruz audience.
Just as Beto is a much more respectful and inclusive and cooperating candidate than Cruz is.
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, Robert Francis O'Rourke is a fraud, relying on the uninformed who will a vote for someone they THINK is Hispanic. That's his schtick.
And where the hell are the cultural appropriation screams? 