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Old 11-18-2018, 01:45 PM
 
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I see a lot of threads about how Texas is turning blue, Florida is is becoming blue, Dems can now compete in Georgia, Cali is a solid blue state, etc.

Its all nonsense, and yes, on the other side, I will admit that maybe we are making too much of retaining the Senate in a year with such structural advantages. The fact is, we have two parties in America, people are always unhappy, and the unhappy have to have somewhere to go, so the other guys are almost always going to get a chance.

On the rare occasions when a party does become extinct, like the Whigs, then they re-organize as a slightly different party, which is basically how the Republicans were formed. It is the dialectical nature of America.

Americans mostly just look at it as "let's give the other thieves a chance." So contratualtions on getting half the legislative branch back.

Both sides are confident in their long term prospects. Cali is definately turning more blue becaue they have chased out all of the middle class, and we are left with government dependent poor and rich techies with noblesse oblige I feel that now that they have a veto-proof majority, they will overreach and alienate enough voters so the GOP makes a comeback. But even if I am wrong, and even if Texas is competative, we are now competitive in the midwest, which we were not for a long time.

You Dems think that you have changed America by flooding it with immigrants who can be turned into dependent voters and who have children who are the same. America has been flooded before, and for the same reasons. We always reach a new normal of enfranchised, property owning citizenry who vote against government thievery. It think you have a temendous SHORT TERM advantage, and again, contratulations, but what you may not understand is that illegal immigration peaked eighteen years ago, and that spiggot is drying up. We will normalize things, and you will not have the base to continue the cycle. Also, structural forces favor us as Western civilization runs out of money and has to downsize on socialism.

So, basically what I am saying is, let's move on and let the side with the better ideas win.

Congratulations, and peace.
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Old 11-18-2018, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Americans mostly just look at it as "let's give the other thieves a chance." So contratualtions on getting half the legislative branch back.
Yes, this is exactly right. Or as a friend puts it, 'time to let the other side have a turn at screwing things up.'

There have been numerous predictions of one side or the other becoming a dynasty. Kevin Phillips had a book called 'The Emerging Republican Majority' in 1969. Then Watergate came along in 1974, and the GOP was damn near run out of DC on a rail. Judis and Texiera came out with 'The Emerging Democratic Majority' in 2002. Until about 2006, the GOP was in control lock, stock, & barrel. Around that time Karl Rove also predicted a 25 year dynasty for the GOP. By 2008, Dems had the trifecta in DC.
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Old 11-18-2018, 04:30 PM
 
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The fact is, we have two parties in America, people are always unhappy, and the unhappy have to have somewhere to go, so the other guys are almost always going to get a chance.
Your post makes some notable points, but the fact is in the United States we have a Constitution, which makes no mention of political parties, artfully designed to cause gridlock smack at the crossroads of power for the very reason that human beings, regardless of circumstances, are unhappy creatures; and gridlock is the very circumstance that prevents disasters from occurring over and over again in quick succession.


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So, basically what I am saying is, let's move on and let the side with the better ideas win.
Electorate as a whole, across that purposely designed complicated web of simultaneously independent and interconnected jurisdictions, has better ideas thanks to the Constitution, and not one side or the other which are only simple-minded illusions.


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