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Haven't read the entire thread, but hopefully someone has pointed out that the operative implicated in election fraud has worked mostly for Democrat candidates until around 2016. https://www.wral.com/plenty-of-nc-po...s-it/18192471/
It wasnt argued in the context of the post we were responding to though.
Further more, I responded to that claim pages ago by saying "Massive" defined by the individual,but that this was fraud, and you side stepped
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Now we know beyond the shadow of a doubt that none occurred.
fraud absolutely occurred,You are playing optics with the word massive.
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It was one or two political hacks at best so far charged by a Democrat DA.
If your candidate had hired some outside firm and didnt knows who this guy was, I could have agreed with you, but he hired this guy personally from his sons account.
Haven't read the entire thread, but hopefully someone has pointed out that the operative implicated in election fraud has worked mostly for Democrat candidates until around 2016. https://www.wral.com/plenty-of-nc-po...s-it/18192471/
I call headline fraud by OP.
The article only mentions 3 races pre 2016, 1 Democratic, 1 Republican, 1 race with no political affiliation.
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It wasnt argued in the context of the post we were responding to though.
Further more, I responded to that claim pages ago by saying "Massive" defined by the individual,but that this was fraud, and you side stepped
fraud absolutely occurred,You are playing optics with the word massive.
If your candidate had hired some outside firm and didnt knows who this guy was, I could have agreed with you, but he hired this guy personally from his sons account.
There's now a federal investigation ongoing. The feds are investigating Harris and Dowless.
Haven't read the entire thread, but hopefully someone has pointed out that the operative implicated in election fraud has worked mostly for Democrat candidates until around 2016. https://www.wral.com/plenty-of-nc-po...s-it/18192471/
The article only mentions 3 races pre 2016, 1 Democratic, 1 Republican, 1 race with no political affiliation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCrae_Dowless
If you just look at his Wikipedia page and then google the candidates he worked for, you can see that he worked for slightly more democrats than republicans. He played both sides of the aisle. It's dumb to portray this as a partisan matter.
The issue should be what to do about 'ballot harvesting,' not to try to turn it into pointless partisan ping-pong, as OP tried to do.
Ballot harvesting by itself is not a bad thing. It allows everyone who isn't able to go vote in a polling place a legitimate vote by mail.
When it's done correctly, according to law, there is enough vote security built in to the mail-in ballots to make them secure from fraud.
Dowless was caught only because the ballot security measures indicated his people had messed with them. The security is much more than just a voter's signature on 2 forms.
Now that the N.Carolina mail-in voting ballot security has been broached, by 2020 the ballots will have even more security than they had last year.
It's ironic. If Dowless had not attempted to defraud the system, the legitimate voting may have been enough for his man to win fair and square. But now, his guy is totally out of the running and McCrae is facing 7 years in state prison.
Ballot harvesting by itself is not a bad thing. It allows everyone who isn't able to go vote in a polling place a legitimate vote by mail.
When it's done correctly, according to law, there is enough vote security built in to the mail-in ballots to make them secure from fraud.
Dowless was caught only because the ballot security measures indicated his people had messed with them.
Incorrect. Ballot Harvesting as practiced in numerous Democrat controlled states is illegal in NC. And while Dowless was doing it for Democrats, Democrats had no issue with it.
We know you guys have an absolute double standard towards this.
Incorrect. Ballot Harvesting as practiced in numerous Democrat controlled states is illegal in NC. And while Dowless was doing it for Democrats, Democrats had no issue with it.
We know you guys have an absolute double standard towards this.
The Ballot Harvesting done by both parties in California is illegal in North Carolina. The ballot harvesting done by Dowless in North Carolina is also illegal in the states that do allow them.
There has been no evidence presented that Dowless engaged in this type of action prior to 2016.
Dear the title of this topis is right there, Election Fraud - Committed by the GOP! Yeah, the word massive was added later, but it's clear enough, the Republican party had absolutely 0 to do with this. That HAS been proved beyond the shadow of a doubt.
You seem rather fixated on a word that doesn't even appear on the title and was used only by a couple of posters.
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And I asked a simple Yes/No question. Has anyone been convicted in a court of law. Answer = No.
So does this mean that you do believe that people lied on their testimonies since no one has been convicted?
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No deflection except you trying to make it about me.
Cool, another deflection from you, this time about my deflection.
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Haven't read the entire thread, but hopefully someone has pointed out that the operative implicated in election fraud has worked mostly for Democrat candidates until around 2016. https://www.wral.com/plenty-of-nc-po...s-it/18192471/
I call headline fraud by OP.
Isn't it interesting that we've heard heard this story before. Guy did previous work for the dems. Later, people were warned not to hire said guy but didn't listen. Now guy is facing legal problems.
When that story broke out, posters here were pointing out that Michael Flynn also worked for Obama.
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