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Agreed. Biden has the blue collar appeal and he will also appeal to elderly voters who voted for Trump in 2016.
you people are delusional. Biden has run 2 national primaries and lost badly. The reason he won in 2008 and 2012 was because Obama was on top of the ticket not him. He has never won a national primary on his own and his 20 year record in the Senate doesn't appeal to the blue collar.....he is for NAFTA, TPP, Amnesty and for endless wars and endless occupations. The progressives in his party don't want him because he is a corporate democrat that have sold the working class out.
The Democrats better get your $hiat together and decide what party you want to be in 2020 and put fresh people to back that platform or you just going to recycle another establishment Democrat that will repeat the same things in the past.
All you have to remind the blue collar folks is Biden record on NAFTA and his support TPP that will outsource more jobs overseas and he is done....he can't defend his record and he has a long one.
you people are delusional. Biden has run 2 national primaries and lost badly. The reason he won in 2008 and 2012 was because Obama was on top of the ticket not him. He has never won a national primary on his own and his 20 year record in the Senate doesn't appeal to the blue collar.....he is for NAFTA, TPP, Amnesty and for endless wars and endless occupations. The progressives in his party don't want him because he is a corporate democrat that have sold the working class out.
The Democrats better get your $hiat together and decide what party you want to be in 2020 and put fresh people to back that platform or you just going to recycle another establishment Democrat that will repeat the same things in the past.
All you have to remind the blue collar folks is Biden record on NAFTA and his support TPP that will outsource more jobs overseas and he is done....he can't defend his record and he has a long one.
Yes he lost but that was before he became a popular vice-president along side with a popular president.
Unfortunately the death of Joe Biden's son was a factor in him not running. He was still grieving. But yes I agree. Trump would have never beat Biden in 2016. Bernie Sanders needs to go away. He became the Ralph Nader spoiler for the Democrats and quite frankly his ideas are too liberal for even mainstream Democrats.
Beto O'Rourke has the magic but Trump beats him in a match up poll and he's too risky. We need someone who can beat Trump hands down.
Even had he run, he wouldn't have gotten the nomination against Hillary. That's the biggest reason why he didn't run imo...saw the writing on the wall. His son would have wanted him to run. But the corrupt DNC had the game rigged in Hillary's favor and he knew that. It was the year of the woman for Democrats.
Biden is too old to run he lost like twice already stop recycling candidates.
Every time he has run for president, he has done terribly. I don't expect 2020 to be any different, regardless of whether he's served as vice president.
Joe Biden is the best hope for Democrats to make Trump a one term president. He would surely reel back in those blue collar voters in Pennsylvania and Michigan who broke for Trump over Hillary in 2016. The Democrats lost not because people loved Trump. Hillary was just a bad candidate and add to the fact that Bernie Sanders didn't help by dividing the party after it became clear Hillary was going to become the nominee. It was a perfect storm for a Trump victory, one that won't be duplicated in 2020 with a more popular democratic candidate. Black turn out will also likely be higher in 2020 than in 2016. We saw this higher turn out among African Americans in the 2018 midterms. Joe Biden is the next best thing to voting for Obama again.
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Unfortunately the death of Joe Biden's son was a factor in him not running. He was still grieving. But yes I agree. Trump would have never beat Biden in 2016. Bernie Sanders needs to go away. He became the Ralph Nader spoiler for the Democrats and quite frankly his ideas are too liberal for even mainstream Democrats.
Beto O'Rourke has the magic but Trump beats him in a match up poll and he's too risky. We need someone who can beat Trump hands down.
where you get all this cr@p? Biden couldn't run because Hillary already got all her democrat donors in her pocket and the deal Hillary made with Obama in 2008 was if she supported Obama in the convention and not contest it in the convention, he would name her secretary of state and support her bid for President in 2016......Remember that was a very bitter and divisive Democrat primary where Obama got most of the Super Delegates and Hillary won the popular vote....they didn't want a repeat of the 1980 democrat convention where Ted Kennedy challenged President Carter and wouldn't endorse him in the convention or back him in the general election and many Kennedy voters voted for Reagan in the general.....so Obama needed Hillary's support to unify the party and the Clintons knew that they could make Obama give them what they wanted.
Hillary would have buried Biden in the primaries, anyway. She had all her donors with her and she would have won the black vote and Latino vote and women vote over Biden.
You guys don't know very much about Biden. He has a long record in the Senate that doesn't help him and he doesn't have the appeal of the black vote, latino vote or women in the party to even win the primary. He ran on his own as a candidate for President twice and he sucked badly.
He came 5th place in the Iowa Caucus in 2008 with 1%. He quit. That's his record in the Senate, he doesn't have appeal to the common folks. He said that Pakistan was the most dangerous country of the planet and his solution to Iraq was to divide the county in 3 and keep the endless wars and endless occupations. Plus he voted for the Iraq war and supported to go in Lybia and Syria.....so his foreign policy record is not very good.
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where you get all this cr@p? Biden couldn't run because Hillary already got all her democrat donors in her pocket and the deal Hillary made with Obama in 2008 was if she supported Obama in the convention and not contested it in the convention, he would name her secretary of state and support her bid for President in 2016......Remember that was a very bitter and divisive Democrat primary where Obama got most of the Super Delegates and Hillary won the popular vote....they didn't want a repeat of the 1980 democrat convention where Ted Kennedy challenged President Carter and wouldn't endorse him in the convention or back him in the general election and many Kennedy voters voted for Reagan in the general.....so Obama needed Hillary's support to unify the party and the Clintons knew that they could make Obama give them what they wanted.
Hillary would have buried Biden in the primaries, anyway. She had all her donors with her and she would have won the black vote and Latino vote and women vote over Biden.
You guys don't know very much about Biden. He has a long record in the Senate that doesn't help him and he doesn't have the appeal of the black vote, latino vote or women in the party to even win the primary. He ran on his own as a candidate for President twice and he sucked badly.
He came 5th place in the Iowa Caucus in 2008 with 1%. He quit. That's his record in the Senate, he doesn't have appeal to the common folks. He said that Pakistan was the most dangerous country of the planet and his solution to Iraq was to divide the county in 3 and keep the endless wars and endless occupations. Plus he voted for the Iraq war and supported to go in Lybia and Syria.....so his foreign policy record is not very good.
Joe Biden shouldn't be underestimated. He does a good job of pretending to be a moderate while campaigning when he is actually a far left ideologue
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