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View Poll Results: Who Wins In 2020
O'Rourke/Harris or Harris/O'Rourke 27 32.14%
Trump/Pence? 48 57.14%
Another Democrat 9 10.71%
Voters: 84. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-28-2018, 03:54 PM
 
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So who wins this race?
  • Kamala Harris (P) - Beto O'Rourke (VP)
vs
  • Donald Trump (P) - Mike Pence (VP)

This is my guess for the best DNC ticket. Harris/O'Rourke. They are interchangeable. Make it O'Rourke/Harris if you like that better. Really no difference except that Harris has at least won a statewide election.

BTW, no question that Trump/Pence will be nominated. So don't even go there.

 
Old 12-28-2018, 04:01 PM
 
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I say none of the above!
 
Old 12-28-2018, 04:04 PM
 
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O'Rourke pairs well with other people, not only Harris.
 
Old 12-28-2018, 04:13 PM
 
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Trump makes any alternative highly competitive.
 
Old 12-28-2018, 05:11 PM
 
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O’Rourke might have a chance in that he is charismatic. A quality heavily needed and most Dems lack. He would definitely be a formidable opponent if he was top of the ticket, unlike Harris, Booker, Warren etc
 
Old 12-28-2018, 05:47 PM
 
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Charisma could have been enough in 2016. In 2020, the D candidate needs to beat Trump on working class issues in middle America. That would be changing the party values, which they don't seem ready to do yet.
 
Old 12-28-2018, 08:40 PM
 
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Charisma could have been enough in 2016. In 2020, the D candidate needs to beat Trump on working class issues in middle America. That would be changing the party values, which they don't seem ready to do yet.
define "working class issues " and "middle America"
 
Old 12-29-2018, 07:32 AM
 
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Well my thinking is this.

If the Democrats want to have ANY chance of beating Trump, they are going to need to do something different than running Hillary or Biden, and let alone Bernie Sanders. Their days in national politics are over.

Biden lost his best chance of running when he was still the incumbent VP. He should have pushed Obama & the DNC to throw their full support behind him, instead of going for Hillary. He's done. (yeah and I know the story about is son, I'm not buying that as the reason. remember they lie for Hillary)

Hillary? She's now tainted goods. Twice failed presidential candidate, and if she comes back into it again, Trump will tear her to shreds just like before. She's go no ammunition to use against him as the entire fake Russian meme is going nowhere, and she's go no decent record to run on. The DNC pulled out all the stops for her, and they will be loath to do it again.

Bernie? See my comments about him in the Bernie topic.

So that leaves the rest. If the DNC wants a chance to win, they are also going to need to quickly dismiss Pocahontas. She offed herself with that DNA test. Booker? Maybe. I could see a Booker ORourke ticket. But I'm thinking the DnC is going to push for another Woman.

Who else if not O'rourke or Harris?
 
Old 12-29-2018, 08:00 AM
 
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Tulsi Gabbard, Hawaii
 
Old 12-29-2018, 08:36 AM
 
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Well my thinking is this.

If the Democrats want to have ANY chance of beating Trump, they are going to need to do something different than running Hillary or Biden, and let alone Bernie Sanders. Their days in national politics are over.

Biden lost his best chance of running when he was still the incumbent VP. He should have pushed Obama & the DNC to throw their full support behind him, instead of going for Hillary. He's done. (yeah and I know the story about is son, I'm not buying that as the reason. remember they lie for Hillary)

Hillary? She's now tainted goods. Twice failed presidential candidate, and if she comes back into it again, Trump will tear her to shreds just like before. She's go no ammunition to use against him as the entire fake Russian meme is going nowhere, and she's go no decent record to run on. The DNC pulled out all the stops for her, and they will be loath to do it again.

Bernie? See my comments about him in the Bernie topic.

So that leaves the rest. If the DNC wants a chance to win, they are also going to need to quickly dismiss Pocahontas. She offed herself with that DNA test. Booker? Maybe. I could see a Booker ORourke ticket. But I'm thinking the DnC is going to push for another Woman.

Who else if not O'rourke or Harris?
Sherrod Brown is also in the mix.
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