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Old 10-06-2019, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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The difference here is that all the main candidates for the Democrats are on the far left this time. So, if there is going to be a circular firing squad, that is where it appears that it would have to take place.

The problem is, if Biden withdraws from the race, then there is not a more centrist candidate of any significant stature left standing for the Democrats. Someone would have to either get in, or one of the current more centrist candidates would have to undergo some sort of rapid transformation into a national figure who is commanding substantial support.
Biden is not a centrist. He is now a Far Left Progressive, and has said he's the most progressive candidate running for President. He feels he needs to be what the Party wants, and would govern as such if elected.

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There are a lot of Democrat voters who would like to see a candidate like that. And even though I could not tell you who it might be, it would be strange to see this race completed with nobody of note in that lane for all of those people to vote for. Very strange.
The Democrat Party is Far Left, and believes all their Democrat supporters are also Far Left. They are in their metro area/urbanite bubble of victimhood, Identity Politics, and Divisiveness. Warren is much more aligned with who the DNC are now. Unhinged, unlikeable, and an extreme, radical socialist. Hillary 2.0
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:45 PM
 
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Pochahontas takes the lead in another national poll:

IBD/TIPP: Warren 27, Biden 26, Sanders 10, Buttigieg 7

In the RCP Poll average, Biden is holding on to a 0.3 point lead, which is a dead heat. It appears that Warren could be on the verge of taking the lead in the poll average prior to the next Democrat debate next week on October 15. If she does, Biden's claim to inevitability will have been officially shattered, and that four months before the primary voting begins.

It is hard to go all in on predicting that Warren will win the nomination, because she is such a phenomenally weak candidate. But even though Biden is clinging to a very narrow lead, it is not hard at all to predict that he is probably finished and will very likely not be the nominee for the Democrats in 2020.
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Old 10-08-2019, 01:40 PM
 
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Hillary Clinton, stirring the pot, with regards to the possibility of her running again, after President Trump encouraged her publicly to get into the race:

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/stat...47264504266752

So, she obviously is thinking about it. But will she run?
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Old 10-08-2019, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Hillary Clinton, stirring the pot, with regards to the possibility of her running again, after President Trump encouraged her publicly to get into the race:

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/stat...47264504266752

So, she obviously is thinking about it. But will she run?
No. She's trolling Trump with that tweet. (Or Jake Sherman, whoever he is)
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Old 10-09-2019, 11:14 AM
 
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Warren in the lead again in the new Quinnipiac (national) poll:

Quinnipiac: Warren 29, Biden 26, Sanders 16, Buttigieg 4, Harris 3, Yang 3

She is also in the lead by 0.2 in the RCP poll average.
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:42 PM
 
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Chris Cillizza at CNN is getting a little twitchy about the possibility of Hillary Clinton running again, with her engaging in a twitter exchange with President Trump about this very topic.
Hillary Clinton is joking about running again in 2020, right?

Of course, there is always this fact to consider: Clinton would like to be president. And losing the White House to Trump -- while winning the popular vote by almost 3 million -- is not the sort of thing that she (or anyone) gets over. All of that is to say that if Clinton could simply be named the Democratic nominee, she would probably do it. That is not how nomination fights work, though. And there are still 19 candidates running in the race, meaning that voters have a choice of every size, shape and ideological positioning they could want.

Could I dream up a scenario where Clinton gets floated as a compromise candidate at some point down the line? Sure. If Elizabeth Warren looks like the nominee -- and jumpy Democratic establishment types worry she is too liberal to beat Trump -- Clinton could well be someone they would look to as a trusted vote-getter. But that's a long, long, long, long shot that likely wouldn't work anyway because the base of the party would rebel against the idea of trying to keep the nomination from Warren.

In short: Hillary Clinton's jokes about running for president in 2020 are just that: Jokes. At least, I think.
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Old 10-09-2019, 01:06 PM
 
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So which pollster will put Hillary Clinton back in their poll (as a one off or sustained for awhile)?

Rasmussen?
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Old 10-09-2019, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Chris Cillizza at CNN is getting a little twitchy about the possibility of Hillary Clinton running again, with her engaging in a twitter exchange with President Trump about this very topic.
Hillary Clinton is joking about running again in 2020, right?

Of course, there is always this fact to consider: Clinton would like to be president. And losing the White House to Trump -- while winning the popular vote by almost 3 million -- is not the sort of thing that she (or anyone) gets over. All of that is to say that if Clinton could simply be named the Democratic nominee, she would probably do it. That is not how nomination fights work, though. And there are still 19 candidates running in the race, meaning that voters have a choice of every size, shape and ideological positioning they could want.

Could I dream up a scenario where Clinton gets floated as a compromise candidate at some point down the line? Sure. If Elizabeth Warren looks like the nominee -- and jumpy Democratic establishment types worry she is too liberal to beat Trump -- Clinton could well be someone they would look to as a trusted vote-getter. But that's a long, long, long, long shot that likely wouldn't work anyway because the base of the party would rebel against the idea of trying to keep the nomination from Warren.

In short: Hillary Clinton's jokes about running for president in 2020 are just that: Jokes. At least, I think.
All this talk about Hillary running again reminds me of Bob Dole.

Dole ran for the Presidency twice before he was finally nominated, and in 1994, Dole was the early leader in a Republican field of 8, all less known or as familiar to the voters. He was 73 when he won the nomination, and was the most moderate candidate the Republicans could field against a President who had risen in popularity steadily over his first term.
At the time, Dole was also the Senate Majority Leader of his party, a singularly good position to go up against Clinton. But he had to resign to run, so it was up or out for Dole.

Just like Hillary, throughout the campaign, Dole's age and apparent frailty kept popping up, displaying his age. He was seen as being too old by the voters, while Clinton was obviously fully of vigor.

Dole lost. Even if Ross Perot had never entered the race, Bob Dole would have lost anyway. Clinton got 49.2%, losing voters to Perot, and Dole got 40.7%, losing voters to Perot. Mr. Dole's long political career was over.

But once out of Washington, Bob became the first political celebrity, and he enjoyed it very much. He made a good second career from appearing on TV, consulting, writing, appearing at Republican fundraisers, and as a commercial spokesman for a variety of products. His sense of humor allowed him some appearances on SNL and Comedy Central.
He enjoyed his second career a lot, for a long time, and once away from the pressures of Washington, admitted losing was a good thing for him.

Now- how much does all this sound like Hillary? Hasn't she done similar things as Bob Dole after 2016?

There always comes a day when it's time to leave the old job. Everyone does, sooner or later.

The great Republican hope for another surprise victory in 2020 just ain't gonna happen. It's a pipe dream.
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:50 PM
 
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All this talk about Hillary running again reminds me of Bob Dole.

Dole ran for the Presidency twice before he was finally nominated, and in 1994, Dole was the early leader in a Republican field of 8, all less known or as familiar to the voters. He was 73 when he won the nomination, and was the most moderate candidate the Republicans could field against a President who had risen in popularity steadily over his first term.
At the time, Dole was also the Senate Majority Leader of his party, a singularly good position to go up against Clinton. But he had to resign to run, so it was up or out for Dole.

Just like Hillary, throughout the campaign, Dole's age and apparent frailty kept popping up, displaying his age. He was seen as being too old by the voters, while Clinton was obviously fully of vigor.

Dole lost. Even if Ross Perot had never entered the race, Bob Dole would have lost anyway. Clinton got 49.2%, losing voters to Perot, and Dole got 40.7%, losing voters to Perot. Mr. Dole's long political career was over.

But once out of Washington, Bob became the first political celebrity, and he enjoyed it very much. He made a good second career from appearing on TV, consulting, writing, appearing at Republican fundraisers, and as a commercial spokesman for a variety of products. His sense of humor allowed him some appearances on SNL and Comedy Central.
He enjoyed his second career a lot, for a long time, and once away from the pressures of Washington, admitted losing was a good thing for him.

Now- how much does all this sound like Hillary? Hasn't she done similar things as Bob Dole after 2016?

There always comes a day when it's time to leave the old job. Everyone does, sooner or later.

The great Republican hope for another surprise victory in 2020 just ain't gonna happen. It's a pipe dream.
No, it should not be a surprise, this time around. That is for sure.
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:52 PM
 
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Tulsi Gabbard is threatening to boycott the debate next week, for which she narrowly managed to qualify, because she believes that the DNC is rigging the process, yet again. This is a refrain we seem to hear quite a lot about the DNC.
Tulsi Gabbard 'seriously considering' boycotting 'undemocratic' October debate

Tulsi Gabbard said she is weighing sitting out of Tuesday's Democratic presidential debate in order to bring attention to a debate process that she argues is undemocratic.

"The DNC and the corporate media are essentially trying to usurp your role as voters in choosing who our Democratic nominee will be," Gabbard said in a video released Thursday. "They are attempting to replace the roles of voters in the early states using polling and other arbitrary methods which are not transparent or democratic, and they're holding so-called debates which really are not debates at all but rather commercialized reality television meant to entertain, rather than to inform or enlighten."

"In order to bring attention to this serious threat to our democracy and to ensure that your voice is heard, I'm seriously considering boycotting the next debate on October 15th," Gabbard said. "I'm going to announce my decision within the next few days."
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