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Old 12-14-2019, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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Bernie is a complete fraud and anyone who knows what book he's been reading knows this. He's a vile scumbag - he's not a nice person at all. The fact he could have put on such a charade - to have milked it all the way into a Senate Seat in a state he's not even from - just shows how ill this nation is to believe liars like him, and to give liars like him absolute power.
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Old 12-15-2019, 02:00 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Bernie is a complete fraud and anyone who knows what book he's been reading knows this. He's a vile scumbag - he's not a nice person at all. The fact he could have put on such a charade - to have milked it all the way into a Senate Seat in a state he's not even from - just shows how ill this nation is to believe liars like him, and to give liars like him absolute power.
Well, if we had wanted a nice President, I don't think Trump would have gotten the job.

It is often said that politics is a dirty business. If that's true, then we can hardly expect our chosen practitioners of the craft to be clean and shiny when they're at work in it.

And I think we all know that it's dirty work.

Claiming we want a clean politician is like claiming we want a plumber who comes to fix the toilet and doesn't smell like a sewer once he's worked on the job.

Any politician has to be willing to get stinky to do the work, as it's always stinky work.
One voter's scumbag is another's effective politician.

If that wasn't true, then Bernie and a huge bunch of other scumbags in Congress, our states, and in our cities and counties would never be holding their offices right now.
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Old 12-15-2019, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I think people want a fighter... not a lover , unless you're French.

One thing for sure... more often than not, the personality you see isn't real, it's manufactured. However I think Bernie's is real, as well as our president, Donald Trump.

Behavior and personality is different. Behavior is often based on what others do and how we respond, so if you're an ass, well.... Personality on the other hand, is who you are, irregardless of others do.

Bernie's personality is a cranky old socialist. His behavior has been the subject of much conjecture and he's been encouraged to smile more and make jokes. That's not him.
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Old 12-20-2019, 10:40 AM
 
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The latest Economist/ YouGov poll, measuring head to head matchups between Trump and the various Democrats who are running for president.

Trump leads Biden by 6

Trump leads Sanders by 26

Trump leads Warren by 30

Trump leads Buttigieg by 41

Neither the Economist or YouGov are typically regarded as right leaning operations. So, there it is.
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Old 12-20-2019, 10:46 AM
 
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You are repeating and amplifying the misrepresentation of this data. It is NOT a head to head voter preference poll, it is a guess about who will win.
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Old 12-20-2019, 11:48 AM
 
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You are repeating and amplifying the misrepresentation of this data. It is NOT a head to head voter preference poll, it is a guess about who will win.
OK, this is the expectation about who will win. Satisfied?

It is still an interesting poll.
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Old 12-20-2019, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Boston
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JMO, but I think Buttigieg's bigger problem is his absolutely horrendous track record with the Black population in his own town (he's Mayor of South Bend, IN). There's no way that segment of the US population will vote for him in a large enough percentage to carry him over the November 2020 finish line.
he couldn't get re-elected to Mayor in his small city anymore yet he wants to be president?
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Old 12-20-2019, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Boston
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The latest Economist/ YouGov poll, measuring head to head matchups between Trump and the various Democrats who are running for president.

Trump leads Biden by 6

Trump leads Sanders by 26

Trump leads Warren by 30

Trump leads Buttigieg by 41

Neither the Economist or YouGov are typically regarded as right leaning operations. So, there it is.
that's unfair! Stick with a do you like the President poll. these matchups just make liberals heads spin.
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Old 12-20-2019, 12:41 PM
 
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UGH what a rogues gallery filled with Far Left extremists and not to mention what the Dems used to be opposed to, the rich old angry white guy...



The Dems are still working hard to destroy Trump and sap from his supporters by making them out to be a bunch of racist deplorables which means that we will probably be looking at a Democrat win in 2020 and then given the front runners on your list OP LORD HELP US!
Yes, please—Lord help us get rid of Trump, the most immoral President ever!
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Old 12-20-2019, 12:44 PM
 
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he couldn't get re-elected to Mayor in his small city anymore yet he wants to be president?
Pete didn’t want to run. He is ready for bigger things—like being your President!
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