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Old 01-11-2020, 01:16 PM
 
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I doubt Steyer is fuming. Both Bloomberg and Steyer have name recognition in polls now through massive spending. It's just strange to think that Steyer, a California liberal environmentalist, having support in South Carolina:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-tom...outh-carolina/

Bloomberg doesn't qualify for debates, but Steyer is on the debate stage, he's pretty single issue. Kind of like Leonardo DiCaprio on his environment concerns. He won't directly challenge any of the other candidates, and no one will challenge him, since he speaks pretty limited to the climate crisis. When it's his turn on a question, it's like a commercial break for other candidates.
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Old 01-11-2020, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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All the clowns in the clown car are now White!

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/...e-14966547.php

Where's the diversity?

If I'm Trump, I'm begging Condoleeza Rice to be my 2020 Running mate.
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Old 01-11-2020, 01:46 PM
 
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If I'm Trump, I'm begging Condoleeza Rice to be my 2020 Running mate.
I think he would choose Nikki Haley. Condoleeza Rice is tied too much to Bush's Presidency and Iraq War advocate.

I think either Biden or Sanders, if the nominee, will choose a running mate of color or a woman.
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Old 01-11-2020, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Nikki Haley & Ben Carson 2024
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Old 01-11-2020, 02:01 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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If I'm Trump, I'm begging Condoleeza Rice to be my 2020 Running mate.
Or Nikki Haley. I think she's of Asian descent, and female.
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Old 01-12-2020, 11:55 AM
 
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All the clowns in the clown car are now White!

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/...e-14966547.php

Where's the diversity?

If I'm Trump, I'm begging Condoleeza Rice to be my 2020 Running mate.
Wait until after Iowa (Feb 3) and New Hampshire (Feb 11). This race will be down to six at the most after that, and very possibly less. All the minority candidates are likely to be out and all the women, aside from Pocahontas.

When Democrat primary voters who prioritize "Identity politics" above all go out to vote in the other 48 states, there are going to notice this apparent discrepancy.

LOL. How can they not?
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Old 01-12-2020, 11:58 AM
 
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All the clowns in the clown car are now White!

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/...e-14966547.php

Where's the diversity?

If I'm Trump, I'm begging Condoleeza Rice to be my 2020 Running mate.
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I think he would choose Nikki Haley. Condoleeza Rice is tied too much to Bush's Presidency and Iraq War advocate.

I think either Biden or Sanders, if the nominee, will choose a running mate of color or a woman.
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Nikki Haley & Ben Carson 2024
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Or Nikki Haley. I think she's of Asian descent, and female.
Trump has already said he is staying with Pence. And of course he should.

In 2024, watch out for Pompeo/Haley. The Democrats will be on their knees.
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Old 01-12-2020, 12:14 PM
 
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Bernie is turning his guns on Elizabeth Warren. This is big news, as there has been a bit of an apparent peace pact between these two before now. But just like the peace pact between Trump and Cruz in 2016, it was not to last. At the end of the primary contest, there can be only one.

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Bernie campaign slams Warren as candidate of the elite

The non-aggression pact between Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren is seriously fraying. Sanders’ campaign has begun stealthily attacking Warren as a candidate of the upper crust who could not expand the Democratic base in a general election, according to talking points his campaign is using to persuade voters obtained by POLITICO.

The script instructs Sanders volunteers to tell voters leaning toward the Massachusetts senator that the “people who support her are highly-educated, more affluent people who are going to show up and vote Democratic no matter what” and that “[s]he's bringing no new bases into the Democratic Party.”

“I like Elizabeth Warren. [optional]” the script begins. “In fact, she’s my second choice. But here’s my concern about her.” It then pivots to the criticisms of Warren.
This is the beginning of the playoffs. The semi-finals for the Democrats, if you will. The far left appears to have resolved down to Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. The other brackets aside from the establishment bracket seem to have basically vanished. Which is very interesting.

If one of them can consolidate that support, they will have a real chance against the current frontrunner Joe Biden, who is only averaging about 29% in the national polls. And quite a bit less in Iowa and New Hampshire, both of which Bernie Sanders has held a narrow poll lead in for a while now.

Warren has been looking surprisingly weak. I never thought she was really going to win the nomination, but the current level of ambivalence towards her and her campaign by Democrat voters is surprising to me. Bernie looks to be peaking at the right time.

The smart thing for Sanders to do is to try to take Warren out early - and with this move, he looks to be doing that. Warren is going to have to respond, which it does not look like she really wants to do. But this is could well be her Waterloo. For Warren, this is an existential threat to her candidacy.

And with that, this game is truly on.

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Old 01-12-2020, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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Nikki Haley & Ben Carson 2024
Yikes! That is a dreadful ticket. A female, warmongering neocon globalist and a black neurosurgeon who is half-asleep? Gotta give you credit for at least trying to check off all of the diversity boxes, though.
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Old 01-12-2020, 12:18 PM
 
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Bernie is turning his guns on Elizabeth Warren. This is big news, as their has been a bit of an apparent peace pact between these two before now. But just like the peace pact between Trump and Cruz in 2016, it was not to last. At the end of the primary contest, there can be only one.



This is the beginning of the playoffs. The semi-finals for the Democrats, if you will. The far left appears to have resolved down to Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. The other brackets aside from the establishment bracket seem to have basically vanished. Which is very interesting.

If one of them can consolidate that support, they will have a real chance against the current frontrunner Joe Biden, who is only averaging about 29% in the national polls. And quite a bit less in Iowa and New Hampshire, both of which Bernie Sanders has held a narrow poll lead in for a while now.

Warren has been looking surprisingly weak. I never thought she was really going to win the nomination, but the current level of ambivalence towards her and her campaign by Democrat voters is surprising to me. Bernie looks to be peaking at the right time.

The smart thing for Sanders to do is to try to take Warren out early - and with this move, he looks to be doing that. Warren is going to have to respond, which it does not look like she really wants to do. But this is could well be her Waterloo. For Warren, this is an existential threat to her candidacy.

And with that, this game is truly on.
Does Politico have any evidence that such a "script" exists? Several people who work for the campaign have come out (with evidence) to refute Politico's report.

https://twitter.com/JockoPotato/stat...36453577068544

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