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What’s worse: choosing a socialist for your party’s presidential nominee, or taking the nomination away from one at a contested convention?
If Sanders gets close but falls short, all hell could break loose. After the first ballot, the Democratic “superdelegates” (establishment party leaders and elected officials) get involved and could turn the convention toward a more establishment-friendly candidate.
Can you imagine the absolute pandemonium if Sanders shows up in Milwaukee with the most delegates and leaves without his party’s nomination? All immediate chaos aside, a key political question emerges: Will Sanders supporters show up in November to support a Democrat who, in their eyes, stole the nomination?
Said it in other threads but if the DNC takes away the nomination from the candidate with the most delegates (regardless of who it is) I think that will mean an easy win for Trump.
10nyears ago Bernie wouldn't have dared proclaim he's a "socialist", last night he claimed it without blinking. It's astonishing how rapidly this entire country is pushing Left..
CNN's Chris Cillizza weighs in on the implications of last night's debate, with quotes from Obama campaign manager David Plouffe. Plouffe thinks Sanders is very likely going to be the nominee now.
If you tuned in to even five minutes of Wednesday night's Democratic presidential debate, you'd have concluded that former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg was the race's clear front-runner. He was savaged at every turn by almost every candidate -- all of whom seemed determined to bring him down, and fast. Bloomberg, of course, isn't the front-runner. Bernie Sanders is. And his rivals for the nomination may well look back on Wednesday night in the coming weeks and months as the moment they failed to stop the Vermont democratic socialist's campaign.
"Bernie Sanders in all likelihood is the nominee, unless it gets taken away from him at the convention," predicted David Plouffe, who managed Barack Obama's 2008 presidential campaign, Thursday morning on MSNBC. Plouffe is exactly right.
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Now, because Democrats give delegates in a proportional manner -- any candidate getting 15% statewide or 15% in a congressional district qualifies to receive delegates -- no one candidate will come close to winning a majority of all delegates on Super Tuesday. But that same proportional allocation -- when coupled with the fact that Sanders has a built-in 25(ish)% in every single state that will vote between now and when the primary process ends in June -- means that the Vermont senator is just going to keep piling up delegates.
Will he get to the magic number of 1,991? That's not clear just yet. But what seems much more clear after Wednesday's debate is that Sanders is perfectly positioned to end the primary season with the most delegates of anyone in the field. Which is a very good place to be.
So while all the Democrats were piling on Bloomberg, Bernie Sanders was chilling out, cool as the other side of the pillow. This day could be looked back on as the day that that they failed to stop "the Vermont democratic socialist's campaign".
CNN's Chris Cillizza weighs in on the implications of last night's debate, with quotes from Obama campaign manager David Plouffe. Plouffe thinks Sanders is very likely going to be the nominee now.
So while all the Democrats were piling on Bloomberg, Bernie Sanders was chilling out, cool as the other side of the pillow. This day could be looked back on as the day that that they failed to stop "the Vermont democratic socialist's campaign".
I remember from Game Change that it was David Plouffe who was first to declare that Obama would get the nomination in 2008. He's a numbers guy. He was studying a spreadsheet early on in the campaign, and excitedly walked around campaign HQ telling Obama and others words to the effect of "we've got this."
I've got his memoir sitting on my shelf. I tried to read it, but couldn't get past 3 pages. Maybe I'll try again now.
Said it in other threads but if the DNC takes away the nomination from the candidate with the most delegates (regardless of who it is) I think that will mean an easy win for Trump.
As an independent I agre with this.
DNC has been trying to rob Bernie from the start - not publishing the last Iowa pools since he was clealry leading, delaying the Iowa caucus result because he won the popular vote though they were not sure if he won the delegate count or not, and now talking about brokered convention, superdelegates voting as soon as possible after a quick 1st round and back room deals to buy votes.
If I was a Bernie supporter I will be mad at these shenanigans. Democrats have a better chance of winning with Bernie being the nominee than by snatching it away from him and giving it to one who has lesser votes but is great at backroom deals. And to those people who support this and yet ask Bernie supporters to come and support their crooked deal candidate against Trump, I will reply **, why don't you nominate Bernie and support him against Trump. Support goes both ways.
I am no Bernie fan and will be negatively affected by his policies but I like to play fair and applaud the winner if he wins it fair and square.
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