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Interesting explanation of where you are coming from Spartacus.
Thanks. What is your angle? Do you identify yourself with a political party? Or do you have some sort of other identifiable factors that motivate you to choose who you vote for? If so, what are they?
Also, do you have open primaries in your state? If so, what are your thoughts on moving back and forth between the parties in these sorts of contests?
Delaney actually sounds half normal on the 'View' right now.
I actually got sick to my stomach for a second thinking I could actually vote for him.
But nah...it ain't gonna happen. Even if he was the guy that got picked, I just will never ever trust another democrat again as long as I live. Their lies since 1965 (and well before that) were the impetus for the terminal cancer America now has.
Trump is infinitely better to trust for the next SCOTUS appointments (hopefully three more) than any of the Dems ever would be.
... What is your angle? Do you identify yourself with a political party? ...
I vote Democratic. I had Republican parents though. I was activist (for policies and party) but never counterculture. I am moderate / pragmatic about most things but I am pretty strong about taking steps to adjust runaway economic unfairness. And at the same time, I have cared about deficit spending more than most. I have always had issues with the Democratic party regarding habits and tactics, standards & performance, but not so much on goals.
I usually can find my candidate but am having a harder time this season. On personal preference I lean toward folks like Bullock, Bennet (maybe Inslee or Klochubar) but low polling is an issue. Hard to get worked up for a candidate if they are way down and you aren't in an early voting state. I am not super excited by any of the top 5-7 on personal evaluation or electability. I may end up voting for one in the primary and would in the general election assuming one of them gets the nomination. It is a long time til the actual vote gets cast. So, for now, I am still uncommitted.
I vote Democratic. I had Republican parents though. I was activist (for policies and party) but never counterculture. I am moderate / pragmatic about most things but I am pretty strong about taking steps to adjust runaway economic unfairness. And at the same time, I have cared about deficit spending more than most. I have always had issues with the Democratic party regarding habits and tactics, standards & performance, but not so much on goals.
I usually can find my candidate but am having a harder time this season. On personal preference I lean toward folks like Bullock, Bennet (maybe Inslee or Klochubar) but low polling is an issue. Hard to get worked up for a candidate if they are way down and you aren't in an early voting state. I am not super excited by any of the top 5-7 on personal evaluation or electability. I may end up voting for one in the primary and would in the general election assuming one of them gets the nomination. It is a long time til the actual vote gets cast. So, for now, I am still uncommitted.
What about Howard Schultz? He is a Democrat running as an independent. Does he interest you at all?
Nope. At least, not yet. Not interested in him as an independent in this context so far and unlikely ever.
Not, after being a Sonics fan for decades.
I might have given at least a fair look if he had run as a Democrat but it would have been unlikely to end up in support of him over everybody else.
I dunno his platform in detail. But making coffee a big deal and more expensive to make him very wealthy is not especially impressive to me.
Now if it is October 2020 and he is leading for electoral college votes in 20 states and the Democratic candidate only has 10... maybe. And the chance of that is less than 1%. Or 1% of 1%.
I went to his site and he does a pretty good job of telling his personal story. But... there is no issues page or issues discussion of any kind. I'll look for articles and videos but having no policy page is not conducive to me considering a candidate. Any candidate.
So Schultz is proud to offer health care and college benefits to his workers but is indignant when Warren wants to give health care and college benefits to everyone when most companies won't do it?
Sounds like he wants to get his large share before giving back, then decide how much is enough to give. He want to get credit for giving it and wants a competitive advantage for it. Morning Joe & Co. pressed him on what was a "right". It is still unclear how much he sees as a right vs. "a noble voluntary gift".
For "tax reform" and "sensible immigration"? Doesn't mean anything to me without specifics.
My understanding is he has not yet spent significant money to start getting on ballots as an independent. Or forming a third party. He didn't have much staff and just laid most of it off. So far, he has not been serious enough about this. Decide, then I'll deal with it.
So Schultz is proud to offer health care and college benefits to his workers but is indignant when Warren wants to give health care and college benefits to everyone when most companies won't do it?
Sounds like he wants to get his large share before giving back, then decide how much is enough to give. He want to get credit for giving it and wants a competitive advantage for it. Morning Joe & Co. pressed him on what was a "right". It is still unclear how much he sees as a right vs. "a noble voluntary gift".
For "tax reform" and "sensible immigration"? Doesn't mean anything to me without specifics.
My understanding is he has not yet spent significant money to start getting on ballots as an independent. Or forming a third party. He didn't have much staff and just laid most of it off. So far, he has not been serious enough about this. Decide, then I'll deal with it.
Schultz appears to be running as an independent a-la Ross Perot. He is not talking about starting a third party. It serves little purpose for a third party candidate to get in the race two years out, as they have no primary process to battle through and no party to win a nomination from. Third party candidates can do everything they could reasonably want to do in the last six months.
I guess you are suggesting that he might not actually run. Well, we will see. But there really is not anything for him to do right now, even if he is running. And he has stated that he will be back after Labor day, which seems pretty sensible to me, except that is still pretty early too.
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