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Is it any surprise to anyone that the Dems want to eliminate the EC? It cost them the last election Bigly and it is going to play again in 2020.
The West coast as the East coast votes Democrat and that is all they care about. I'm sure the Dems would like to skip right over the Bible holding, Gun toting, Freedom loving Deplorables that make up the rest of the country.
The EC was put in place for a reason and we need to keep it.
The more the Dems try to alter the rules and sway elections their way the more we are fighting the real tyranny.
Trump won 37 states. hillary won 13. THAT is why we have the Electoral College!
This absolutely incorrect, the EC was put in place to protect the individual liberty and the sovereignty of your State.
The process of the electoral college was established to ensure that the person elected to be president of these United States would accurately represent the union as a whole, not favoring certain States while ignoring others. The office of president, contrary to popular belief, was never designed to be a representative of individual citizens, but rather a representative of the collective interests of the States. One has to understand the the president of the United States does not represent the people. Look at Article 2 of the Constitution, this defines the powers of the President. The POTUS is not the leader of the United States, this is why we have 3 branches of government, all equal. All 3 branches of government lead the United States. The POTUS only leads the military during a time of declared war. He is part of the treaty process that makes contractual agreements with foreign governments and the States. Most everything that the president is to do, he does only with the consent of the Senate (the voice of the States) and together, the President and the Senate ensure that each State’s interests are represented equally in matters of war, peace, and foreign commerce.
There is no power in the Constitution that authorizes the President to directly affect the lives of the people. The only power that the POTUS has that would directly affect the lives of the people would be the power of the pardon, and that only exist to provide checks and balances on the judiciary, not as a form of personal favors. Because the president’s role in government is to be an ambassador on behalf of the States, the States must choose their representative. The popular vote for president that takes place within the State ensures that the principles and the interests of the people of that State guide and direct the electors in their choice of president. The problem is,it is not the people that get to choose their electors but the political parties. This would not change with a national popular vote.
The National Popular Vote would eliminate the States voice all together, and the voice of the minority. Consent of the governed limits government. citizens have the right to vote, citizens can use their vote to change the government, citizens can even change the constitution by voting. Rights of the minority limits government. limits the power of the majority, makes sure everyone is treated fairly, protects even small or unpopular groups. The NPV movement would eliminate this, it would make States with the least amount of population bend to the will of larger populated States, so States like Florida, California, Texas and New York would get most of the federal government attention and spending to insure a re-election bid.
"Look at Article 2 of the Constitution, this defines the powers of the President."
Amazing how some skip over parts of the Constitution they do not like.
Articles of the Constitution. "Article 2
Section 1
"The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America."
"There is no power in the Constitution that authorizes the President to directly affect the lives of the people"
I disagree. Being the Chief Executive of the government, "authorizes the President to directly affect the lives of the people"
Why did you ENTIRELY SKIP Section 1 and go directly to Section 2?
You even mis interpreted Section 2
"The POTUS only leads the military during a time of declared war"
Where does it state that?
"Section 2
"The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."
And you DON'T THINK appointing judges does NOT "directly affect the lives of the people"?
The electoral college was also crafted at a time when Americans did not directly vote for the POTUS. There was not a ballot with a presidential candidate that ordinary general voters selected from. Electors from the states chose the president. In the early years, the electors were not necessarily even voted on by the people as the majority of states had their legislatures choose them. The history of the system is that it has evolved over time and needs to once again.
The system works as it is. The DEMS nominated a candidate under criminal investigation with some of highest negatives of anyone ever nominated. Then Trump gets lucky in wins a series of close races.
It was a perfect storm that ushered Trump into the White House. The moral of the story for the DEMS is put more care and effort into nominating a better candidate. Scrap the rigged system that allows party bosses to select who they want with the super delegate system and collusion with the mainstream media. Look forward instead of looking backwards.
Pretty obvious what went wrong for the DEMS in 2016 and it has nothing to do with the EC. The DEMS should be furious with the DNC not the constitution. But my gut feeling is the DEMS will nominate a ultra liberal far left nominee in 2020 who will run on a Robin Hood platform of 90% tax rates and hand outs for almost all that will scare moderates over to the GOP and keep either Trump, Pence or whoever in office after 2020.
"Look at Article 2 of the Constitution, this defines the powers of the President."
Amazing how some skip over parts of the Constitution they do not like.
Articles of the Constitution. "Article 2
Section 1
"The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America."
"There is no power in the Constitution that authorizes the President to directly affect the lives of the people"
I disagree. Being the Chief Executive of the government, "authorizes the President to directly affect the lives of the people"
Why did you ENTIRELY SKIP Section 1 and go directly to Section 2?
You even mis interpreted Section 2
"The POTUS only leads the military during a time of declared war"
Where does it state that?
"Section 2
"The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."
And you DON'T THINK appointing judges does NOT "directly affect the lives of the people"?
Must be liberal public school "educated"!
"The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America."
Correct, but what is that "executive power" that power is defined in Section 2. Section 3 defines the Presidents duties.
"The POTUS only leads the military during a time of declared war"
You forgot the "when called into the actual Service of the United States". Who can call the Militia into service? Congress, once this happens the the President assumes the role of Commander in Chief.
And you DON'T THINK appointing judges does NOT "directly affect the lives of the people"?
The President doesn't appoint judges, the President nominates people to be appointed by the advice and consent of the Senate. The only judges that the President appoints are those allowed by Congress.
I'm saying that according to the Constitution the President powers are very limited, it has only been in the last 100 years that we have allowed the government to run itself, which is a dangerous proposition for the freedom and liberty of this country. WE the People, are the bulwark of our liberty, and must keep an ever vigilant eye on our government.
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