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Firstly I'm not a progressive, I'm a leftist. Secondly I never criticized her race, I don't care what her background is, I am only saying that for someone who is solely focusing on identity politics as her announcement video showed, she is being deceitful about her background as an AA to win more votes.
I don't think identity should be the focus of the election, but people who want to distract from problems of power do. I personally don't care if that's the focus of her campaign, but in that case she should be upfront about herself and stop playing political games.
edit: This is who she is, not some black activist:
I didn't say you 'criticized' her race; I said you were attacking her based on her race and you were.
She has been in the race about 2 days and you have proclaimed she is 'solely focused' on identity politics.
You have not one clue what her policy positions are or will be.
So YOU are focused on her race.
No, read my post, I’m not focused on her race, I’m focused on her actions.
Basing her campaign in Baltimore, speaking about AA’s like she is one, and making an announcement video solely focused on identify was her own doing.
And it’s deceitful, that’s not who she is. That is not who she’s been for a very long time. She is a second generation politician of Indian decent who has allied herself with the Bay Area power brokers, and made her career as a prosecutor jailing poor people.
Even if identity politics is your focus, she does not represent racial causes.
I listened to her, and although she presents stances on issues that are to the left of much of me, I would continue to listen to her.
She is smart, attractive, personable, and I thought laid the issues that face the USA on the table in a well thought out way. She could beat Trump, in fact, I think she would beat him handily.
However it depends who else gets into the race. Sanders? Yesterday's man. Hillary? Please no!! Brooker? Maybe, I'd have to hear him. O'Rourke? Yup, I think he would place well, although I have not heard him on national issues. Bloomfield? No, but a hell of a choice for VP I think. Warren? No, please, not her! Biden? I like him, a lot, but too old.
I know there are a bunch more out there. I would lean towards Harris, O'Rourke and maybe Brooker. But my mind is malleable on the choices. It's way to early.
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Firstly I'm not a progressive, I'm a leftist. Secondly I never criticized her race, I don't care what her background is, I am only saying that for someone who is solely focusing on identity politics as her announcement video showed, she is being deceitful about her background as an AA to win more votes.
Nope, your argument was she isnt black because she isnt the decedent of a slave. But that isnt even what being black in america is.
like it or not, racist jsut see skin color and dont care what your parents were,so my experience as a decedent of slaves is likely similar to hers even as the child of an indian and a Jamaican.
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I don't think identity should be the focus of the election, but people who want to distract from problems of power do. I personally don't care if that's the focus of her campaign, but in that case she should be upfront about herself and stop playing political games.
edit: This is who she is, not some black activist:
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No, read my post, I’m not focused on her race, I’m focused on her actions.
Basing her campaign in Baltimore, speaking about AA’s like she is one, and making an announcement video solely focused on identify was her own doing.
And it’s deceitful, that’s not who she is. That is not who she’s been for a very long time. She is a second generation politician of Indian decent who has allied herself with the Bay Area power brokers, and made her career as a prosecutor jailing poor people.
Even if identity politics is your focus, she does not represent racial causes.
You continue to try and define what black is, and you have no authority to.
Nope, your argument was she isnt black because she isnt the decedent of a slave. But that isnt even what being black in america is.
like it or not, racist jsut see skin color and dont care what your parents were,so my experience as a decedent of slaves is likely similar to hers even as the child of an indian and a Jamaican.
Take your own advice, talk about her policies, not her skin color or your personal definition of "Being black",
1. Of course other races can face racism. But that doesn't make you an African American. My parent's are Iranian. If I face discrimination, that doesn't make me an African American.
2. You should pay attention. She ignores her policy because she can't win on that. She can't win defending the MIC and global financial institutions, she focuses on Identity.
If she's going to do that rather than her horrible record, then she should be called out on her deceit.
I listened to her, and although she presents stances on issues that are to the left of much of me, I would continue to listen to her.
She is smart, attractive, personable, and I thought laid the issues that face the USA on the table in a well thought out way. She could beat Trump, in fact, I think she would beat him handily.
However it depends who else gets into the race. Sanders? Yesterday's man. Hillary? Please no!! Brooker? Maybe, I'd have to hear him. O'Rourke? Yup, I think he would place well, although I have not heard him on national issues. Bloomfield? No, but a hell of a choice for VP I think. Warren? No, please, not her! Biden? I like him, a lot, but too old.
I know there are a bunch more out there. I would lean towards Harris, O'Rourke and maybe Brooker. But my mind is malleable on the choices. It's way to early.
I agree. I saw her speech today and she is very poised, has a presidential demeanor, and a forceful and eloquent speaker. Her law enforcement background makes her strong on security. I'm not going to predict the outcome of the primaries but I will predict she will be a serious contender.
The Willie Brown thing -- so what if they dated, over 20 years ago, no one cares.
The "Black" thing -- doesn't matter, she is undeniably a person of color. Non issue.
I agree. I saw her speech today and she is very poised, has a presidential demeanor, and a forceful and eloquent speaker. Her law enforcement background makes her strong on security. I'm not going to predict the outcome of the primaries but I will predict she will be a serious contender.
The Willie Brown thing -- so what if they dated, over 20 years ago, no one cares.
The "Black" thing -- doesn't matter, she is undeniably a person of color. Non issue.
her law enforcement background is actually a problem for many of the left
I agree. I saw her speech today and she is very poised, has a presidential demeanor, and a forceful and eloquent speaker. Her law enforcement background makes her strong on security. I'm not going to predict the outcome of the primaries but I will predict she will be a serious contender.
The Willie Brown thing -- so what if they dated, over 20 years ago, no one cares.
The "Black" thing -- doesn't matter, she is undeniably a person of color. Non issue.
Doesn't matter any more than her race or her gender. If Democrats are thinking that all they have to do is put someone up there that looks and sounds good, and checks off some identity boxes, they're going to lose again. If Trump has showed anything, it's that many people don't care if a politician presents well. The American people need substance this time.
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