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Old 01-29-2019, 05:53 AM
 
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Free sex from Kamala too.
Why not, she’s promising free everything, not coming out of her pocket and why not just keep lying her way to the presidency. Look how far she’s already gotten with her ridiculous radical statement and showboating.

She definitely knows how to appeal to the majority of the radical left!
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:40 AM
 
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she also promised lots of socialist goodies: Free pre-k baby-sitting services, debt-free college which means it would be free, medicare for all and $500 a month to families to make ends meet.

kamala bucks!!!! :d
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Old 01-29-2019, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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Why not, she’s promising free everything, not coming out of her pocket and why not just keep lying her way to the presidency. Look how far she’s already gotten with her ridiculous radical statement and showboating.

She definitely knows how to appeal to the majority of the radical left!

Right now the optics of socialism is Venezuela and the cesspool San Fran, her home town, while we are economically healthy under repubs. Outside of Crazy CA Kamela is toast...
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Old 01-29-2019, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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You mean like getting us involved in a civil war in Syria, or using bombers and drone strikes to collapse the government of Libya.
Funny, I wasn't aware that Obama and Hitlery were right wing.
Then you weren’t paying attention.
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Old 01-29-2019, 11:16 AM
 
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Looks like to win the nomination in 2020 they have to elect a big government socialist.

It's going to be a competition to see who be the most socialistic Democrat who promise the most cash, prizes and goodies with taxpayer money and deficit spending.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kam...free-education

She went on for a very long time about her friend Libby Schaff who likes to tip off criminals to pending raids.

She also promised lots of socialist goodies: Free pre-K baby-sitting services, Debt-Free college which means it would be free, Medicare for all and $500 a month to families to make ends meet.
She is trying to out bernie,bernie. Good luck should be hilarious watching who can offer the most free stuff.

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Old 01-29-2019, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Which wars did Obama start and which wars has Trump stopped?



When has she sided with the ruling billionaire class over regular Americans? You think she would appoint corporate tools to the SCOTUS like Trump has?

You said the same thing about Hillary and look where we are with regard to the SCOTUS and withering away of rights for our fellow Americans.

Look where we are with regard to regulations on pollution in our air and water - Trump did away with those.

Again, purity demands put Trump in office.

“FORMER CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY General Kamala Harris on Wednesday vaguely acknowledged The Intercept’s report about her declining to prosecute Steven Mnuchin’s OneWest Bank for foreclosure violations in 2013, but offered no explanation.”


https://theintercept.com/2017/01/05/...mnuchins-bank/

Yes, every candidate has baggage.
I’m not looking for purity, but not trying to play both sides would be nice for a change.
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Old 01-29-2019, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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You think Medicare isn't socialism run rampant? 14% of our budget today is medicare, another 10% on Medicaid, and 25% on social security. 49% of the budget are these 3 programs and only 1 of them is "self funded", social security (for now). Add SNAP and half the US budget is socialist programs. None of this includes HUD (section 8 housing) or a miriad of other socialist programs. Our military spending is out of control but only amounts to about 18% of the budget.

If you think a 6% sales tax will pay for medicare for all you are a fool. Consumer spending is about 70% of GDP with 2/3 of that spent on housing, health care, other services. That leaves 1/3 of that (roughly $4.6T) that would be taxed; this is durable goods (clothing, cars) and non-durable goods (food). A 6% tax on that would only cover about $280B, not even close. Does Congress even have Constitutional authority to implement a sales tax?
What’s always struck me as funny are people who demand their Medicare because they “paid for it” when they’ve done no such thing.
Sure, maybe they paid for some of it, but the hundreds of thousands that they may receive in medical care?
Nope.

People paying into Medicare now are paying for the benefits of others.
And, they are also likely paying for some or all of their own healthcare at the same damn time.

Since people are already paying for Medicare, what is wrong with receiving the benefit NOW rather than later?
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Old 01-29-2019, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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She was a prosecutor who let bank fraudsters like Trump's right hand man Steve Mnuchin off the hook. https://theintercept.com/2017/01/05/...mnuchins-bank/

She is not for the people even though she says nice things. This is true for all who have the same big money donors as Donald Trump. She is an establishment democrat who is pushed by the corporate media because the big money donors are in California and New York (Booker, Harris, Gilibrand, all with deep ties to the corporate elites). She can raise funds (beg the super rich for bribe money). Thats what this is about.

2016 was lost because Hillary was a terrible candidate who had the same big money donors as Trump and people are sick of it.
Great minds.
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Old 02-03-2019, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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A 6% value added tax (includes services) should generate $700-800 billion a year. Add that to the roughly 1.7 trillion in current public spending on health care and we're at $2.5 trillion. Add $500 billion in private health care spending (typical of countries with universal health care) and we're at $3 trillion. At $3 trillion or almost 15% of GDP, it would be the most expensive single payer system in the world (all other developed countries spend 9-12% of GDP on health). If you're saying it will be far more expensive than that, we're doing something wrong (time to fight corruption siphoning off our dollars).
Would that 6% include housing, rentals, car purchases, utilities, food, auto insurance and basically everything?

Would there be any exemptions at all?

The Median Home Price In California Now Exceeds $600,000 - capradio.org

In California, 6% tax on a home purchase would be $36,000 extra. They would also have their auto insurance goes up 6%, gasoline would go up 6%, food would go up 6%.

It all adds up quickly.
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