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And everyone knew who Trump was at that point. The allegations about the Russians were out before the election. There was the Billy Bush tape. Etc. And he still won.
But each election is it's own event. Now he has a record to run on (or against.)
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty
Who won the last election? Trump you say?
Case closed.
(and your opinion of Trump is irrelevant. you did afterall support Hillary Clinton and gave her a complete pass)
I’m not a huge fan of Trump but when I see the Democratic side, I go right back over to Trumps side. Honestly with the amount of hate Trump gets in the media and online, it only makes me like him a little more. I guess they’ll never learn. It’s not a winning platform to continue to find ways to bash Trump. You need to offer something people will reflect on. The vast majority of people will look at themselves in 2016 and look at themselves in the same voting booth in 2020 and see themselves better now than then, and write in Trump. He will likely win again.
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A big issue will be where the economy is. We're dye a cyclical recession. If that happen around the time of the election it would hurt Trump, even if It was just cyclical. The only reason Obama won was because the mortgage crisis hit maximum impact right around the '08 election.
And everyone knew who Trump was at that point. The allegations about the Russians were out before the election. There was the Billy Bush tape. Etc. And he still won.
But each election is it's own event. Now he has a record to run on (or against.)
I don't like Trump, and I would never vote for him, but I think the bolded fuels a lot of the vitriol expressed by a number of the big time Trump haters on CD.
I wanted to run a poll to get an idea where things sit a this point in time. Assume the 2020 Presidential election is happening now. The three major candidates are:
Donald Trump (R)
Kamala Harris (D)
Howard Schultz (I)
Random minor party candiate (Green, Libertarian, et al)
How would you vote? Note, as in a real election, there no "none of the above" choice. If you don't pick one of the above, your vote doesn't get counted.
As of "right now", I would vote for Schultz. He's Ross Perot 25 years later, but with a liberal rather than a conservative leaning. We desperately need a businessman in charge who can right the ship with regards to the debt. Trump has things right on immigration, and Trump also has it right on an isolationist foreign policy. If Schultz proves to stand for those things I will vote for him. If Schultz proves to be an open borders guy then I might not vote for anyone next time.
Trump has a lazy streak a mile long, he cut taxes when he didn't need to, he's don't nothing on the long term debt, he's done nothing to try to reform social security or healthcare (other than eliminating the penalty, which was a good thing). Bottom line.....Trump was the right guy in 2016 and I would make the same vote again. I'm not sure Trump's the right guy in 2020. So I guess right now I'm undecided.
I wanted to run a poll to get an idea where things sit a this point in time. Assume the 2020 Presidential election is happening now. The three major candidates are:
Donald Trump (R)
Kamala Harris (D)
Howard Schultz (I)
Random minor party candiate (Green, Libertarian, et al)
How would you vote? Note, as in a real election, there no "none of the above" choice. If you don't pick one of the above, your vote doesn't get counted.
More liberal fantasy land.
Dems will run michelle Obama in 2020.
Trump wins in 2020.
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