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Old 02-02-2019, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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The Dems have pivoted away from being the champions of the Middle class to embrace people that are lower than Low class in the "migrants" that are taking advantage of our lax and overly generous immigration laws.



The Lower class may be very excited for the FREE stuff the Dems promise and they are more than happy to vote for them but in reality the millions of illegal aliens already in the country will be coming for their jobs once they are given the ok to "come out of the shadows" with amnesty.

The Dems are working overtime to reduce our high level of living and to get more people dependent on the Government from the womb to the tomb (as long as they keep voting for the "D")



Of course the upper class will still continue to support the Dems and vice versa because they need to get their campaign money from somewhere and as long as the expanding Low class can be kept away from them.


The Middle class should run from the Democrats and what they are now bringing to the table.
The bolded is a contradictory statement. As if they got amnesty, they would become naturalized citizens and would no longer be working for peanuts under the table
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Old 02-03-2019, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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The family business (run by oldest daughter) saw dramatically increased sales in 2017, and a record breaking year in 2018. DH (retired, but it's his family's business) is reaping the benefits in more money. I, in turn, can afford to continue to work part time seasonally and take the whole summer off to spend with the grandkids. Son in law (oldest daughter's DH) got a promotion, large raise, and a nice bonus. They were able to purchase a new van.

Please tell us how we've been screwed under President Trump...I don't see it either. Not how somebody ELSE your or the SJW's think we're supposed to worry about was screwed...specifically tell us how WE were screwed.
There are a number of ways. His trade wars are potentially hurting international businesses which could limit the family business. He wants his wall and will shutdown the government AGAIN to get it. We are 12 days away and the Republicans in Congress can't get a wall in the deal. The economy lost billions from the millions of workers not getting paid during the first 30+ day shutdown, it can easily happen again with Trump's stance. This too will hurt the family business. Taxes both in processing returns and the amount of money in returns is expected to be less than past years for the middle class. Less money to spend means it will hurt the family business. As I said if you don't realize how Trump is screwing us, you never will.
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Old 02-03-2019, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Are the terms “middle class” and “white working class” now interchangeable?

What’s left? The “elite” and the welfare recipients?

Since the Republicans seldom can manage a win in the popular vote, are we saying that when you combine the “middle class” and the “white working class” it’s still less than a majority?


But as we all know, popular vote doesn't mean a thing in electing the president in this country. You seem to bring it up in every post. Maybe The Democrats should focus on winning the electoral college, what really counts. Maybe they should go to Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Iowa, Florida, and tell them how they will change for them. Those states ultimately decide our elections.
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Old 02-03-2019, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Forest bathing
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The bolded is a contradictory statement. As if they got amnesty, they would become naturalized citizens and would no longer be working for peanuts under the table
Then they would be competing with poor Americans in this competitive work strata and thecwages would be lowered for all those jobs. Principal of economics: more people after the same low age jobs will lower the wages due to competition. And, why do you say they won’t still be working for peanuts?
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Old 02-03-2019, 03:04 PM
 
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Right. But I believe the Democrats have lost the white middle class in several elections now.
Several? Democrats haven't won the white vote since the early 60's.
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Old 02-03-2019, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Several? Democrats haven't won the white vote since the early 60's.
And part of that is due to the southern Democrats becoming Republicans because Democrats dared to let blacks be fully treated as equals under the law.
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Old 02-03-2019, 04:28 PM
 
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But as we all know, popular vote doesn't mean a thing in electing the president in this country. You seem to bring it up in every post. Maybe The Democrats should focus on winning the electoral college, what really counts. Maybe they should go to Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Iowa, Florida, and tell them how they will change for them. Those states ultimately decide our elections.
Only time will tell, but winning the electoral college while losing has been an anomaly thus far in American History. It’s only happened 5 times in 58 POTUS elections. It will be interesting to see how long the GOP can depend on winning the EC if they consistently lose the pop vote. The D’s have won the popular vote in every POTUS election but one since 1992. It’s the first time in history that one party has won the national popular vote that consistently. People move from state to state and take their politics with them. It will be interesting to see how Trump does as an incumbent Republican President. The last time the R’s won the popular vote was Dubya’s re-election in 2004.

You can look at the popular vote as irrelevant, but it would be unprecedented if the R’s manage to consistently win the electoral college while losing the popular vote with regularity.

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Old 02-03-2019, 04:44 PM
 
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And part of that is due to the southern Democrats becoming Republicans because Democrats dared to let blacks be fully treated as equals under the law.
And since then black born out of wedlock rates havè gone to hell. Cudos Democrat Plantation Party. They replaced the black family man/husband with a welfare check.
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Old 02-03-2019, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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And since then black born out of wedlock rates havè gone to hell. Cudos Democrat Plantation Party. They replaced the black family man/husband with a welfare check.
Yeah cause changes in state divorce laws are entirely based around the rights given to the African American community. There are multiple 1960's ideas and not all are federal level.
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Old 02-03-2019, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Metro Seattle Area - Born and Raised
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If you don't see how you got screwed under Trump, you'll never will.
Please explain to us since I'm not seeing it... I'm not trying to be funny or a smart @zz, but I would like to facts from the other side.

That goes for anybody, I'm truly open to hear what you have to say because I'm not seeing or feeling it and other members in my family are doing better as well.

Thanks.
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